Wolke Unpause

[KinG23]

Reena goes AFK level 9 to answer the door, and pauses game. Wolke unpauses game without asking my team if they were ready. As a result, Red/Blue were unable to full build for level 10, and we leak huge. Approximately 19:00 replay time.

https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=7406107

Rule Broken:

Pause/Afk

Do not unpause unless every player is ready.

@archol Would appreciate if you reviewed this, thanks.

[sonycrockett]

tbh mb that unpause did impact in the game. I know they got advantage, but.... who knows

[Wolke]

I would like to say a word aswell to this .
Reena said he needs a pause to get his food and i paused the game, but since he said 18:57 / Allied) reena: can unpause i pushed. So i resume the game, the pause so far was like 5-10sec and since nobody from the other team sad any word we just played on. As you can see from the chat, i communicated in all-chat without any response. On my opionion it´s common knowledge, that you can resume a game after just a rly small pause (10sec). Also the other Team had more then 1m to check if there teammates, who went afk without saying a word are back/build etc.

(18:26 / All) reena: my food arrive
(18:28 / All) reena: i need
(18:31 / All) reena: 1 min sry
(18:37 / Allied) Wolke: we pause
(18:45 / Allied) reena: pause after lvl thx
(18:45 / Allied) KinG23: save now i think
(18:47 / Allied) KinG23: we all shit val
(18:57 / All) Wolke: reena door
(18:57 / Allied) reena: can unpause i pushed
(18:57 / All) Wolke: food arrived
(18:57 / Allied) KinG23: -king
(19:16 / All) Wolke: i pause again, when we need king etc

[reena]

haha! wolke even said that he unpauses! i mean other players can ask/check team if all there and pause if needed! they had 1 minute to realize 2 players went afk.. this is a joke here tbh! wolke didnt mean to do anything wrong, he communicated, and acted as everybody would have... I mean for example: when someone comes back from afk, did you EVER see ALL players saying they are back? most of the time some just are quiet and we have to check on them if they are building or w/e to see that they are not afk!...

cheers reena

[TinSoldier]

90% of the time when people say "re, all ready?" after a pause not everyone from the enemy team replies anyway and if they are not ready then someone on the other team should say so on their behalf. It is not Wolke's job to sit there waiting for 4 people to say "i am ready" after a brief 5 second pause. Are players not also expected to say they are afk anyhow? How is wolke supposed to know people on enemy team went afk to begin with.

Stirring up drama over petty reports like this is toxic to the league.

[yolostyle]

completely agree with wolke on this.
He clearly announed that we will pause once we need reena to use wood on king and will proceed for the moment.

In my opinion this was a comunication problem on the other team and that's it.

[pewpew lasergun]

i dont know how long the pause lasted i was on phone.
blue said he didnt build correctly or build at all, and red (me) upped wrong unit cuz no farm.
i honestly dont mind if the game was drawn or not
i think if we go by the book its rule break, but no ill intent, maybe we can move along.

[Stiff_Maistar]

I will just say that the pause/unpaused messed me up for that lvl.

The other team said the pause would take 1 min.
Wolke then paused the game and i went to fill the bottle with water because i had a 1 min timelimit + what ever time it was ingame 30sec ish. I came back after mb 35 sec and saw that it was only 4-2 secs left before the round started.


So, the original timelimit of the pause is 1 min. Wolke unpauses the game after 5-10 secs (if thats correct) without even saying a word. Until 21 secs later where he says: (19:16 / All) Wolke: i pause again, when we need king etc

[FadingSuns]

I will just say that the pause/unpaused messed me up for that lvl.

The other team said the pause would take 1 min.
Wolke then paused the game and i went to fill the bottle with water because i had a 1 min timelimit + what ever time it was ingame 30sec ish. I came back after mb 35 sec and saw that it was only 4-2 secs left before the round started.


So, the original timelimit of the pause is 1 min. Wolke unpauses the game after 5-10 secs (if thats correct) without even saying a word. Until 21 secs later where he says: (19:16 / All) Wolke: i pause again, when we need king etc

I would like to know how you pretended to "hold" 10 with just accos. FYI i had wolves and killed 1 boss, so get an idea....

[Dong]

I will just say that the pause/unpaused messed me up for that lvl.

The other team said the pause would take 1 min.
Wolke then paused the game and i went to fill the bottle with water because i had a 1 min timelimit + what ever time it was ingame 30sec ish. I came back after mb 35 sec and saw that it was only 4-2 secs left before the round started.


So, the original timelimit of the pause is 1 min. Wolke unpauses the game after 5-10 secs (if thats correct) without even saying a word. Until 21 secs later where he says: (19:16 / All) Wolke: i pause again, when we need king etc

You should allways inform your fellow players when you go AFK even if the game is paused for someone else, Like you have seen in this particular situation. And for the record 80-90% of the pauses begin with " i need 1 min/i need 1 sec " it is rarely exactly a 1 min pause. Or a 1 sec pause.

[Stiff_Maistar]

To ace: I werent pretended to "hold" 10 with revs. I wanted to deal as much dmg as possible since we did not have any good 10 holders. If i took 60-80% of the bosses hp, it would mean that the king would need less hits to kill them therefor it could save us a heal. So you didnt know what i was going to build, and how i was going to build. And we do not know if that would help on the focus on the bosses or not if i would be able to build.

To dong:
In other games i have said that i go afk a bit when someone else is afk. Tho in those games i have played i havent seen anyone coming back after a few seconds so i assumed i had enough time 1 min ish, and 30-40sec ingame.

Anyway, I only commented here to share my side of it.

[Jamo]

... so i assumed i had enough time 1 min ish, and 30-40sec ingame.

And Wolke assumed nobody would leave within 5 secs. So that equals out, also enough time for your team to pause the game again. So really, I don't see the point here, this is just (again) making huge drama out of nothing. The result is, that in the future every unpause takes 5 minutes until literally everbody replied (which some people just don't do) because everybody fears ban otherwise... jeeeez

[Stiff_Maistar]

Jamo, as i said. I only commented here to share my side of it to give the mods some better info when they take their decision.

[SLSGuennter]

If there is any punishable rulebreak, then it is the afk'ing without telling anything (imo). Wolke was doing like all others do, and he cant know enemy goes afk without telling and the enemy team doesnt realize it ...

[dweiler]

Seems archol is unavailable at the moment so I will handle this.

Yes, it is a rulebreak by @Wolke. It was announced that there would an afk for 1 minute and you resumed again after a few seconds. If Stiff was afk for 3 or 4 minutes I would say it is his own fault, but if you unpause at a way shorter time than stated you should check with other players before unpausing.

On the other hand, @Stiff_Maistar, you should always announce your AFKs, if only to prevent people from unpausing so soon. A better communication would have prevented this. Also, Stiff_maistars team has a part of the responsibility, because they are the one's who are able to check for AFK's in their team. You can't blame Wolke for not noticing an un-announced AFK in the other team.

Because of the different factors involved in here, and because I see no ill intent I will keep this as a warning. Do take care with unpausing and always announce if you go AFK, even if it is within the time limit that is stated.

I have opened a poll on creating a protocol to prevent such cases in the future (if wanted) (https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=83124)