Drahque revouch

[Lord-Miles]

I don't know the guy same as HBC , but since there guys been banned for maphack and they never admit it at first time and create dramas and lying peoples about it , in my opinion i think kind of this peoples got no place in private league.

[Drahque]

I dont Even understand why a poll is nessesary when his ban was permanent. Why would U Even concider letting a person back with his history of excessive lying, manipulation and Flaming/causing drama, and on top of That he did maphack its obvious from All the chances he have gotten That he is unlikely and unwiling to change

Only American's have death sentence. In Europe we even give murderes a second chance.

[hadora]

Well compare death sentence with ban and murderer with maphacker is kinda... meaningless?
Speaking for speaking wont make this case progress. Only time and mods do.

[MarshMallows]

I dont Even understand why a poll is nessesary when his ban was permanent. Why would U Even concider letting a person back with his history of excessive lying, manipulation and Flaming/causing drama, and on top of That he did maphack its obvious from All the chances he have gotten That he is unlikely and unwiling to change

Okay so I have read pretty much everything about this case.

reasons to let you back in are:

The ban was a long time ago
You have changed
Everyone deserved a second a chance

Reasons not to let you back in are:

You cheated
You tried to blame Diablo for framing you when you got caught
You had a history of being a difficult member to play with when you were vouched

For me If you had been un vouched like shrimp was, simply for being toxic I would support a trial vouch. It's the cheating that is still the problem for me. It doesn't matter to me if you do it again or not (I would assume you wont after such a long ban) it's the fact that you did do it at all and you broke everyone's trust and then didn't say you were sorry for it for years.

[Drahque]

]it's the fact that you did do it at all and you broke everyone's trust and then didn't say you were sorry for it for years.

I didn't play LTD for over 2½ years. I just came back recently. I had one instance I played the game for a few days, that's about 1 year ago. But that's like 5-8 games in the last 2½ years.

[GoatsBeGone]

I dont Even understand why a poll is nessesary when his ban was permanent. Why would U Even concider letting a person back with his history of excessive lying, manipulation and Flaming/causing drama, and on top of That he did maphack its obvious from All the chances he have gotten That he is unlikely and unwiling to change

Only American's have death sentence. In Europe we even give murderes a second chance.

In your case it would be the 10th time you would get a second chance

[Drahque]

I dont Even understand why a poll is nessesary when his ban was permanent. Why would U Even concider letting a person back with his history of excessive lying, manipulation and Flaming/causing drama, and on top of That he did maphack its obvious from All the chances he have gotten That he is unlikely and unwiling to change

Only American's have death sentence. In Europe we even give murderes a second chance.

In your case it would be the 10th time you would get a second chance

If someone in real life robs 10 stores without a weapon, they could get roughly 2-3 years prison in Denmark. But, they would still be given a 11th chance when they get out of jail. It's practically the same, everything I did 2½ years ago, was back then, I highly regret what I did, I had PLENTY time to think about it and for sure won't repeat it.

You have to think; It's just a trial, if I break 1 rule or fail 1 screenshot test, you can INSTANTLY un-vouch me. There is only one way to find out if I changed, and that's by giving me a chance with a trial period.

[tariqtd]

I played some games with this guy lately and he was decent and attitude as well , so second chance is allways good , at the end who is the perfect man ?
We all doing mistakes

Salam and good luck

[FadingSuns]

I dont support, as I explained on his request he is still arrogant and flames hard. Played with him 1 or 2 games on 1200+ bot and can say that his attitude is far from being OK. Maybe he acts when he knows that a lihl player on game to appear friendly (he didnt know i was when we played) but in general, arrogant, flamer, and not fun to play with.

Appart of that, his MH and bad attitude in past fits what i experienced a month ago.

I supported HBC cause his attitude was fine and everyone pointed he was a good guy (MH issue etc), but in this case everything i read and everything i experienced playing with him is negative.

Rarely you will see me not supporting someone, can say it is the only time i have voted !NO

[MarshMallows]

Is this guy, Adii?

[Diablo_]

Is this guy, Adii?

I don't think so.

@Drahque
The poll result is pretty clear and you will not be revouched, sorry.
The reason why we only consider revouching maphackers if the big majority of LIHL players support it is that they have lost their right to be in LIHL. They abused everyone's trust into fairplay and broke the fundamental principles of our league. If the ex maphacker doesn't regain the trust from our community, then we simply value that opinion more than the desire of the cheater to join LIHL again as there's no reason why legitimate/fair players should "suffer" from the vouch if they are uncomfortable with it.
No one can tell whether you really changed or not and whether there's still a risk that you would maphack again or not. After losing peoples' trust it is simply not easy to earn again and it is not our responsibility to give everyone xx chances.

I still wish you good luck and hope you will enjoy playing LTD/WC3 anyway.

[Drahque]

Thanks a lot for considering or giving me a chance to be re-vouched. I respect the community's decision.

I'd however not agree with the part: "You might maphack again", simply because of the Screen Shot testing, anyone map-hacking would be caught in no time.

[Drahque]

Is this guy, Adii?

No lol, I'm definitely NOT Adiii. If I see him on my team in the lobby, I always leave. He's like Vendeta, King (undeadking) etc. all under a group of rager that's not nice to have on the team.

[Vendeta]

Is this guy, Adii?

No lol, I'm definitely NOT Adiii. If I see him on my team in the lobby, I always leave. He's like Vendeta, King (undeadking) etc. all under a group of rager that's not nice to have on the team.

If my name is mentioned, i will respond to it. I am not a Lihl player, but there is no need to put my name here in wrong way, just to create bad picture of me. He should be warned about this, its bad for me, if i ever decide to vouch.
Cause u mention me here, i will comment on your play. I am a regular 1200+ player, and from my experience with Fellsbadgirls, Drahque, Pyjama, or whatever his name is, most of people dodge him, not because of rage, its because of game ruining. He was under name of Feelsbadgirls, but when he flamed, raged too hard, he changed to this, cause everyone dodged him. Now, most of regular 1200+ players dodge him like i said game ruining. He dont flame anymore, i give him that. Toxic, yes, game ruin yes. He doesnt know how to take an advice, thats why he raged in first place, now he just ignore it, think he knowes the best, he cant understand that there is always room for improovement.
I want him to be warned or something, i did had bad attitude, i admitt it, but its changed because of all the drama, so if i changed my manners , i wont allow some Maphacker to talk bad about me.
Cheers !

[Drahque]

warned? lol, nobody can warn me for nothing. You've been warned your multiple times for your flaming in ban request. There is no way that you will ever join LIHL with your current attitude/flaming/raging in games. It's true, when I played on FeelsBadGirls, I wasn't always positive. But last ~1 month, I've changed my attitude, and now nobody but you and adii and shouldn't play together. Simply, because you wish to revenge from me getting you banned for flaming/raging and being toxic.

and btw, this topic has already been achieved