ID tourney
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Re: ID tourney
Well, whilst I love the idea of an ID tournament (I really do) it's just un-realistic because a tournament would aim to have the best ID player(s) win and that's simply not possible.
Just talking about titan alone, you would need to pit the titan against the same 10 builders every game at a minimum for it to be considered as them all being vs equal lobbies and even go as far as forcing those 10 builders into the same builder choice for all the games. ELO is a bad judge of players because as of right now the true top ELO player is Hash but Hash is also the first person to say he's not the top ID player. Hell if you wanted to do it with a titan vs whatever builders are around you would need at least 30-50 games per person as titan to get even a remotely realistic statistic and even then it still wouldn't be equal footing. What I'm saying is, it really wouldn't be a tournament, it would just be IH league again.
Likewise then there's the problem of people simply not playing. I mean, we all know how IDIH league ended unfortunately :/
Just talking about titan alone, you would need to pit the titan against the same 10 builders every game at a minimum for it to be considered as them all being vs equal lobbies and even go as far as forcing those 10 builders into the same builder choice for all the games. ELO is a bad judge of players because as of right now the true top ELO player is Hash but Hash is also the first person to say he's not the top ID player. Hell if you wanted to do it with a titan vs whatever builders are around you would need at least 30-50 games per person as titan to get even a remotely realistic statistic and even then it still wouldn't be equal footing. What I'm saying is, it really wouldn't be a tournament, it would just be IH league again.
Likewise then there's the problem of people simply not playing. I mean, we all know how IDIH league ended unfortunately :/
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Re: ID tourney
He is just suggesting a tournament so we could do something fun (I think), not so we would label the ALL TIME BEST ISLAND DEFENSE PLAYER. I don't think anyone thinks you could label a "best" player with a hundred game long tourney let alone one that would be about 11 games.
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Re: ID tourney
Ideally there would be 11 players. But it doesn't have to be 11, could be more, there average skill in the lobby would be pretty much the same no matter how many. The builder point is good though, same with titan. But I guess you'd start with murloc and assign every builder to a color, so red - murloc, blue - gnoll etc. And titan would be molt every game for fairness. Also let titan always start with a webbed feet, to remove any random inequality between titan games.
Perhaps Neco could make some quick edits to a Tournament map, where red always spawns as murloc, blue as gnoll (...), titan as moltenious with webbed feet. Perhaps even make some edits that were removed because builder has low skill, like wotw cd, chimera item use, and unique skill-able at lvl 1. But maybe not.
I just want to emphasize, it isn't possible to completely balance everything out since a lot is random but it will definitely be close to balanced and the most skilled player will probably win.
The incentive to play should definitely be there as the rewards are quite nice.
1) Possible prize pool from ENT (Ent hosts tournaments sometimes, I read somewhere that they sponsor up to $50, players could chip in too to make it larger)
2) Possibly name on loading screen for a while
3) Possibly get a forum name color (wasn't this the case for some ent tournaments?)
4) A lot of fun
5) If the competition is good; respect from community
Perhaps Neco could make some quick edits to a Tournament map, where red always spawns as murloc, blue as gnoll (...), titan as moltenious with webbed feet. Perhaps even make some edits that were removed because builder has low skill, like wotw cd, chimera item use, and unique skill-able at lvl 1. But maybe not.
I just want to emphasize, it isn't possible to completely balance everything out since a lot is random but it will definitely be close to balanced and the most skilled player will probably win.
The incentive to play should definitely be there as the rewards are quite nice.
1) Possible prize pool from ENT (Ent hosts tournaments sometimes, I read somewhere that they sponsor up to $50, players could chip in too to make it larger)
2) Possibly name on loading screen for a while
3) Possibly get a forum name color (wasn't this the case for some ent tournaments?)
4) A lot of fun
5) If the competition is good; respect from community
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Re: ID tourney
ENT supports and sponsors tournaments if they are in line with our requirements (see wiki).
However, hosting an ID tournament would probably be I. too much of an effort given the set-up and II. too much stress given the players.
You are free to organize and do it though. I will gladly support you in the process.
However, hosting an ID tournament would probably be I. too much of an effort given the set-up and II. too much stress given the players.
You are free to organize and do it though. I will gladly support you in the process.
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Re: ID tourney
Oldschool clan battle:
STEP ONE
Game one:
Builders: Team one (10 builders)
Titan: Team two (1 titan)
Game two:
Builders: Team two (10 builders)
Titan: Team one (1 titan)
STEP TWO
Rinse and repeat Step one until happy.
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STEP ONE
Game one:
Builders: Team one (10 builders)
Titan: Team two (1 titan)
Game two:
Builders: Team two (10 builders)
Titan: Team one (1 titan)
STEP TWO
Rinse and repeat Step one until happy.
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Re: ID tourney
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