lod skill combo ban until it gets changed

[Jiminy_Cricket]

Requesting the ban of phantasm + rearm. Currently Rearm wards and Rearm golems is banned. You cant even pick the skills because its game ruin cheap. You simply get tp boots or pick furion tp, tp back and forth in lanes and mow down buildings. I requested this combo to be banned by map maker in next version. This combo is still available because map maker doesnt play with rearm at all so he can only make changes per our request. Having 6 metamorphasis phantasms push every lane is unstopable. Just tp back and forth and rearm the images. They can crit hard (2k) and you cannot stop the push because there is no counter.

[entrails]

You can't really suggest a ban unless the map maker says it's broken

[Jiminy_Cricket]

actually you can. Your thought logic is like "you cant vote unless your the President." wtf eat more veggies or somethin.

[Burnt]

Heroes are given randomly at the beginning of LoD games, so the probability of having metamorphasis + phantasm + rearm is same as having totem + jinada + grow. To me the latter is more op given u can kill with 1 hit at level 6, 7; while the rearm phantasm starts functioning at higher levels with a higher demand on items.

Point is: there are a lot of op combos in LoD but the chance of having them is low. You enjoy the game when you happen to have those combinations and you utilize them well.

Spoiler!

Or give Cricket skills to play the game.

There is a limit to how much a game can, should and would adapt to a single player.

- Sincerely, Whiteboard.

wa wa wa

[BiLyA]

Srsly, I don't get people that cry to mapmakers about imba combos and stuff. Then cry about multicast zeus ult, egg and haunt and everything. This shit happens in League of Lesbians and has turned it to a game for 12 year old kids. There are no counters to rearm phantasm? How about rearm ravage, rearm black hole and shit? U remind me of the people that were crying about axe, or troll or bara in older versions and especially in teh case of bara, he turned into the most worthless hero in game when shits like gyro were getting buffed because they had cool rockets or something lol

[Jiminy_Cricket]

if rearm golems and rearm wards is banned then so should rearm phantasm. it ruins the game. its op. I dont care what these mindless peons think.

btw burnt youre really becoming a troll lately.

[BiLyA]

U have a problem with rearm-phantasm, but np with rearm roots, rearm omnislash, rearm doom? Or are you suggesting to remove rearm completely?
In my book tho, mindless peons are the people who don't get that It's a freaking 6skill bot, its NOT supposed to be balanced or competitive, its a fun mode. There are normal dota maps for ppl that wanna play balanced-competitive games...

Spoiler!

Theres also a spell called sleight of fist, which happens to be the best counter to illusionists with cleave. U ever read it or tried a build with it lol?

[Burnt]

lol Jimi you haven't changed and neither have I.

The comment (beside the quote on someone else's comment) is my opinion for your reference.

[Jiminy_Cricket]

This combo is game ruin op. If it wasnt so op I wouldnt say a word. It's the most bs combo you can take and it really doesnt take much to get. Draft tinker and chaos knight. If you draft furion and/or terrorblade it's even more op. Many good players Ive talked to say yes it should be banned. So many games the opposing team just types !ff after they realize this combo was drafted.

[THR]

This combo is game ruin op.


i agree

[HazarDous]

This combo is still available because map maker doesnt play with rearm at all so he can only make changes per our request

Can you explain that sentence?


Also, it is not ENT's job to balance a game, but the mapmaker's. So tell me, is phantasm + rearm combination acting in any way that was not meant to be by the map maker?

[Jiminy_Cricket]

Map maker plays 4 skill lod. He doesnt know if our rearm combos are op cause he never plays 6 skill.

Rearming images of any sorts needs banned btw. You can rearm metamorphasis grow feral impulse naga images and its just as powerful as the ck ult combo. It's crazy op. You cant even get near the images once their leveled and have items like skadi. The images kill you and you cant kill the hero cause hes on the other side of the map already.

The official ban request is for:
1. phantasm + rearm
2. mirror images + rearm

@hazardous

[CheW]

Phantasm maybe. Images no. Is rearm manta going to be banned? What about conjure image? Rearm images is fine. It counters all the single target builds that everyone seems to get. Stop raging because you lost a 1v5.
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[HazarDous]

Map maker plays 4 skill lod. He doesnt know if our rearm combos are op cause he never plays 6 skill.

Then it is your duty, and the community's, to let him know so he can fix this.

[Jiminy_Cricket]

@hazardous We did. He only comes out with a new map a couple times a year. He's kinda like uak. Got a lot goin on. You never know when he can get it done.