[ID] 5 palyers votekicked me as lvl 12 titan

[BeefJerky]

Replay Link:
Game Name: [ent] island defense #
Your Warcraft III Username: beefjerky
Violator's Warcraft III Username: seacow, and many other players.
Violated Rule(s): votekick abuse
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): last remaining minutes of game.
Any further thoughts: I was getting lvl 12 and about to siege then they votekicked me.
votekick doesn't allow you to get replay link

[broud3r]

go to https://entgaming.net/openstats/ enter your ingame name and you see your recently played games where you can download the replay as well
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=7849388 is the game in question

[Cardflip]

We didn't kick you just because you got level 12. You stalled much of the end of the game and level 12 would not have saved you for that base, you could barely break 2 walls. You barely put an attempt to actually siege, as you did not actively use minions. You ran around the map scavenging for all my workers in seeds (which took a very long time...) and the rest of the tiny pieces of feed.

[seacow]

Ban-able Offenses:

1. Intentionally stalling a lost game as titan and wasting everyone's time for more than 10 mins.

2. The titan can be kicked if he does not kill a builder in 20 minutes time upon the condition that 60% of the builders alive agree to having the titan kicked.

3. Stalling is defined as titan and minions not being able to win or having no chance of killing any builders.

1)The lack of siege demonstrate that he had been stalling and inability to kill the final base show that he does not have any chance of killing anyone.

2)The last death was roughly at 36:00 in game which is well beyond the require of the term. ( game last ~70minutes)

3)lack of any death after that fail seacowbase and the longevity of i-58 base demonstrate he have no chance to win or any chance in killing any base/builder

You fulfill all the condition for stalling.
The audacity to post a ban request against us is admirable.

[SomeSillyStoner]

Bump for Mod

This is a tough one, he has legitimate grounds for taking such time, he was having trouble reaching 12 and was openly voicing this issue. At the same time Seacow is correct, what he did meets all the requirements of stalling. But he wasn't stalling, just having issues reaching 12. Which he did right before he was kicked and actually said "There we go" as he achieved it.

So do you ban people who kicked someone who wasn't stalling but met all the requirements of stalling (not really the builders fault, it was just a tough game) or do nothing and process.

IMO: No ban should be placed this time, it wasn't a malicious kick I believe. However, the rule about 20 minutes should be looked at and revised, I used to play much ID and in most cases when there's 5 builders left or so everyone just runs to the strongest base and hides and waits for the win instead of setting up their own base and actually trying to win the game themselves. How is the titan supposed to feed when the only units are seeds that get deto'd right away or the strongest base in the game. Of course a titan can not kill any builders within 20 minutes if they are all hiding instead of playing and giving him a chance to catch back up.

Potentially look into starting a suggestion about this? It seems strange to have a rule where you can kick someone for not killing in 20 minutes when 99% of the time it ends up as 6 builders in 1 base and 4-5 of them are just hanging out making killing anyone very unlikely.

[Merex]

Yeah.. no. Not a case for VK abuse if you spend 40+ minutes roaming around the map nuking nature workers and could barely get 2 walls in the last remaining base.

Side note: With abysmal water, that got you 3 walls in at best so I'm not sure glac ulti would've done any better.

Denied.