Vote mode change

[Nin]

I don't think it's fair for 3/10 people vote for a game to change game modes for ALL of the players. In a vote, it should be majority rules.

[HazarDous]

@nin

Give more details, I doubt votemode command only requires 3 votes.

Provide a link.

[Nin]

@Hazardous
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/dow ... 036304.txt
(search "has voted for the mode" and you'll see only 3 players vote

this is the actual game
http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 036304.w3g

[Chrono[diox]]

The votemode would never be changed if it were majority rules. The votemode is triggered by a swing vote of three. So if no one cares, yes, three people may vote a change the mode. However, if you were to vote against them for the current mode, then they would need 4 votes to pass said vote. If two players vote against them, then it would take 5 people, and so on. If you see that the mode is going to change and you cannot gather support to overturn the swing vote, then maybe you should consider just joining the next game rather then requesting that all other players in the game should lose the ability to play alternative modes once in awhile.

[HazarDous]

I asked uak back then when we were implementing whether 3 votes was low, but considering the modes arent unplayable (modes like wtf are banned) and this was a made option eliminating non-em bots, we left it at 3 votes.

Source: viewtopic.php?f=48&t=82952 (Admin section).

3 votes is fine. As mentioned by nabo, the modes are playable and u can always go ng if u don't want to play the mode. However, the players must announce people about the mode change. You may report those who don't.

@uakf.b Possible to add message every 7-10 seconds stating; "Mode has been changed to "x"' ? Also add a message that states when the new mode passes, please.

[uakf.b]

The votemode would never be changed if it were majority rules. The votemode is triggered by a swing vote of three. So if no one cares, yes, three people may vote a change the mode. However, if you were to vote against them for the current mode, then they would need 4 votes to pass said vote. If two players vote against them, then it would take 5 people, and so on. If you see that the mode is going to change and you cannot gather support to overturn the swing vote, then maybe you should consider just joining the next game rather then requesting that all other players in the game should lose the ability to play alternative modes once in awhile.

Currently it is that you need at least three votes for a particular mode to pass it. So if two vote for ap and three vote for apem, then it will be apem. But if four vote for ap and three for apem, then it will be ap. We could change it to be like what you said though, so that it needs a majority out of those who voted, and otherwise defaults to the bot's mode. That seems like it might be reasonable.

[uakf.b]

updated vote mode so that it displays the mode on ENT38, let me know if it works then will restart ENT11 and the europe one

[Chrono[diox]]

@uakf.b -UPDATE-
New mode warning message works great, noticed in a few games today that were turned to RDEM. Many players who saw the message got excited and voted as well, or they simply went ng. I noticed with the warning nobody was surprised at the mode being RDEM instead of AREM and knowing such nobody complained. Those who didn't want to play RDEM simply joined the next. Thanks.

[HazarDous]

@chrono[diox]

Link to those games, please.

Also, did you notice if bot announced that a new mode had been chosen every X seconds, or was it just after people voted?

Tl;dr; are people that join the game after vote was changed aware of new mode?

[Chrono[diox]]

Sure I will try and fine some of them should be any AREM games I've played as of recent.

[Chrono[diox]]

Here are a few. I can confirm from lobby chatlog it does indeed display message every few seconds.
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=8090486
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=8090295

[HazarDous]

We went a bit off-topic from the main suggestion, which was to modify mode change vote requirements to >6. That suggestion is denied for the reasons explained by myself and chrono. However, the fact that players were unaware of the mode change from the link you posted is a real concern to which we have found a solution. @Nin @chrono[diox]

@uakf.b Seems great. You can apply it to other DotA bots, thanks.

[uakf.b]

Restarted ENT11 / ENT90.