Noobs playing LTD

[MarshMallows]

I guess when I play. I like the enemy king to die and to win. You do this by getting large quantities of lumber and sending it in unison with your team, causing your enemies to leak.

I find this "meta" preferable, than sending idiotic militia/whelps/dinos every round, that do not make your opponents leak, giving them free gold and allowing them to push lumber very hard, as they no longer have anything to fear from you as you cannot send anything at any level to threaten their king.

When you strarted playing, everyone was terrible at legion, now most people have gotten better, but you haven't and yet you want to be able to play the same bad way you used to without people getting mad at you. Not gonna happen... Get with the times or prepare to piss people off with your old outdated noob playing.

[Sir Meon]

Just played with warlord1994, he trolls. He said he had to leave, and that we should send (idk what wave, but a stupid thing to do) - and I've played less 20 LTD games, so I followed his call, but I realized later from my team it was a big mistake.

Moving on, Sir Meon, there is quite a lot of people who is willing to teach you as long as you remain active in chat and follow their instructions. I've learnt a lot so far, and still learning.

[warlord1994]

Just played with warlord1994, he trolls. He said he had to leave, and that we should send (idk what wave, but a stupid thing to do) - and I've played less 20 LTD games, so I followed his call, but I realized later from my team it was a big mistake.

Moving on, Sir Meon, there is quite a lot of people who is willing to teach you as long as you remain active in chat and follow their instructions. I've learnt a lot so far, and still learning.

oops lol.
i win many recently. check it.

[MarshMallows]

If you have won any games, it will be because your team has carried you, everything you have said would suggest you are a huge burden to play with and are unwilling to learn.

Sir Meon, most people wont get mad at you if you simply try to learn and explain that you are new. The problem is most people you will be "learning" from in ent18 will be pretty bad at the game. But they can bring up up in level a little bit anyway, if you got 1200 elo you could learn a decent amount from players at 1200+, the majority of them are pretty good there.

[Sir Meon]

First things first: I wasn't making fun of you, warlord, I was really interested. If you were native speaker, the way you write would be lightly offensive to me, but as you are not, it is fine and i can deal with it

Second thing: The way MarshMallows explained it, with just granting your opponents free gold by sending harmless little pawns, this was just what i was trying to say - it doesn't really make sense to me if you send without any chance to make the opponents leak!

@ShiningBright: Thank you, yes I think I can still learn from them, or at least get my elo up haha
Edit: If I would find games to play - seems like I am very unlucky with my gaming times, there is always just this one game where there are probably 3 people in it xD

@MarshMallows: I really understand what you mean I think I will just get my elo up and then improve by playing with better players! Are all of you in here using ENT Connect or is it mixed and some are using Battle.net?
I didn't quite understand that, is the LIHL played over ENT or do you use something else?

[Sir Meon]

Just played with warlord1994, he trolls. He said he had to leave, and that we should send (idk what wave, but a stupid thing to do) - and I've played less 20 LTD games, so I followed his call, but I realized later from my team it was a big mistake.
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oops lol.
i win many recently. check it.

I don't want to be a wise guy, but... 26/78 W/L isn't really "winning many" as I would put it. Just saying xD
https://entgaming.net/customstats/legio ... rlord1994/

[MarshMallows]

I use varlock as my reconnection tool. Otherwise just go on battlenet and join the channel "clan lihl" to talk to people about viewing games

[warlord1994]

hi can the rule set to ban solo send after lvl 10?
income from lvl 1-5 is good ucan do more lumber jack with certain towers,
since early save is for killing some heal btw, lumberjack and income is more important early game.
jsut talking about some situation.
so early solo send is acceptable ?
then solo send after 10+ is ban
plz
and i talking about pub td bot again.

[LTDNorb]

Early sends aren't useless. You can try to scout king-skill on lvl 5 or just their towers, so you know when to send next.
With sends on each lvl, opponent holder has it easier to hold mid too at lvl 7 (and 8).
The gold you gain from sending is in no comparison to the gold they get from making you leak (or leak harder) combined with the gold you lose (wont be 100% bounty).
Let's look at the typical send-scenario:
You send on lvl 3 and push lumberjack during lvl 3. So you can barely send anything for lvl 4 while lvl 3 is still ongoing. Let's assume you were able to send BO, so your income was 10 for lvl 3 and maybe 12 for lvl 4. That's +2 gold (+2 for them too as they just the gold from your send). For lvl 5 you can maybe send BO again if you stay with one lumberjack. That's +10 (+12 in total) but also +12 for them. A dino now for lvl 6, as you go 2nd lumberjack. That's +6 (+18 in total) but also for them. You are maybe 5/2 to 7/2 in this scenario. Those +18 gold didn't really make you gain any significant amount of gold to do a wisp. And remember they got the +18 too. The only difference is that their send is stronger now, they will get the income for their sends twice, as you will leak and they will get the income a second time from your king-gold. And if both of you leak your higher value wont mean that much as their send is stronger !!_BUT_!! their income is higher as they are at least 7/3 and they can up king way faster than you.
Also remember if you bring up "But they could leak to king", they get more time to send on lvl 7 and you will probably face a send of 4-6 BOs with furb. Scenarios were all of them suck on a lvl from 4-6, should be ignored as we should be looking for an average scenario. Of course sending all lvls could be good for lvl 4-6 if they all got engineers and you got immolation to cover lvl 7. But this isn't an average scenario.
Sending all levels is one of the worst things you can do. Even if it is just one player. Stop thinking that this is a good strategy that should be somehow allowed (even if it is just to a certain extent).

[warlord1994]