sixthperson@ unknown

[Chantry_nV]

Your Warcraft III username: Chantry

Violator's Warcraft III username: sixthperson

Game name or map name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #75

Approximate date/time of game (alternatively, link to a Stats page): Links listed at bottom.

Rule player violated: Item Destruction, definition can be found at: http://www.dotacash.com/forum/tier-1-ru ... -offenses/

Time of incidents (Note in-game timer or replay timer): 27:35

Any further thoughts: I believe the player "sixthperson" merits a ban under the description and penalty of 'item destruction' as you can see in the definition, it states "Stealing/hiding items from your allies" and once Tiny leaves the game, the items which he possessed become team property and each individual remaining player is entitled to 1/4th of the total value; but instead of team selling his entire inventory, techies instead placed dagoon and dagger on his courier and then the rest of the items onto his personal player in order to sell them and receive 100% of the value. the reason I see this as very bad in relation to breaking the rules is that, frankly, in the game I was playing AM and was attempting to carry and that 25% value on me may have made the difference in that game and resulted in a win for us. the player blatantly stole items from the team which on Dotacash's rules says merits a 31 day ban, IMO I believe if this is the players first offence that he should receive a warning and maybe a 4-7 day ban.

link 1: http://www.dotacash.com/dotaparser/view ... 798610.w3g
link 2: http://s5.clanent.net/replay/view_repla ... 351097.w3g

Thank you.

[Palsgraf]

Checking...

[EdgeOfChaos]

For reference: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6520
It is not clear whether taking leaver items is bannable or not.

[Chantry_nV]

For reference: viewtopic.php?f=14&t=6520
It is not clear whether taking leaver items is bannable or not.

the example in the post was whether a hard carry should stack up on items... in order to win the game for his team, that is very different than a useless support stealing unnecessary items and crippling the entire team instead of enhancing it... IMO.

I strongly feel if I could have had my hands on some of those items/gold I could have won the game. IMO

[VirusHunter]

Item destruction: destroying, hiding, or stealing team items; suiciding courier; massing cheap items; repeatedly buying and then selling items.
this would be a bannable offense imo.
https://clanent.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=153

[QTriNitY]

Authorized by Pals to decide as he was working last night.

Item destruction: destroying, hiding, or stealing team items; suiciding courier; massing cheap items; repeatedly buying and then selling items

This rule with regards to the stated game refers to stealing a 'Live' player's items. Tiny was a Leaver hero and his items were sold by Techies to purchase Aghanim's Scepter
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Techies was seen making good use of those resources and playing as a team.
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Further explaining this phrase - destroying, hiding, or stealing team items; suiciding courier; massing cheap items; repeatedly buying and then selling items
These are acts of game ruining. Thus taking over a leaver's items and making some use of it is not game ruining.

I will deny to ban Techies and proceed to ban the Mher - Clinkz.

Thanks for posting.

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2ezforme@useast.battle.net is banned for map hacking - 1 year (Pending Confirmation)

-0:17 <2ezforme> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Arc Warden], 0x000097E600006A1E
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Game info - https://clanent.net/findstats.php?id=1351097

[teoeo]

Maphacking confirmed on 2ezforme. Blatant fog click at 1:45 in game time on Warden (as listed by Qtrinity).

[Palsgraf]

For the record, I completely agree w Trin's analysis of the rule.