Paste no clog rule pls

[opa_nuklear]

Your Warcraft III username: opa_nuklear
Realm/Gateway: europe
Why are you banned: clogging on 1200+
Why you should be unbanned: there is no rule that forbid clogging. if there is one pls paste the rule here. thx

[RadiantCrystal]

clog tactic is under glitch exploit, do you read the general rules?

[opa_nuklear]

these are the general rules:
When picking a mode other than the default one (-hpgmcb prophet or -phgmcb), mode setter (red) must announce it in the lobby before the game starts. Every player must be informed, so they have the opportunity to leave in case of dislike.
Refusing to heal.
Refusing to cooperate when asked to do so several times by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win.
Refusing to build in attempt to teamkill.
Selling value at any point in the game in order to stall time and gain advantage on a racing level is forbidden.
Do not build close to your teammate without consent to steal kills.
Do not juggle the king preventing him from attacking or killing units.
Do not change the king's target to delay killing, except to efficiently kill multiple targets or kill higher priority targets such as sent units or low hp units. Range stomping and backward waving is allowed.
Intentionally leaving after sending as incomer to give an advantage to valuer in cross is bannable.

pls show me the rule that forbids clogging. im sure im not blind but i cant find the rule. btw we never sold units to steal time. the update to 3.41e should have fixed clogging by preventing that units stuck in the middle...

[beroldas]

https://postimg.org/image/768gwdgp3/

i guess radiant meant this

[opa_nuklear]

Here you can see that clogging was fixed:
viewtopic.php?f=250&t=65161

Check Halibel's posts from Tue Aug 11, 2015

So if clogging was fixed or reduced with the last update uts not a glitch anymore or?

[RadiantCrystal]

clogging in mid is fixed, but clogging tactic is not, if you use the strategy it falls under glitch exploit. If you think 30mins for 7 levels is fine, then you can sit out for 7 days.

[supersexyy]

But it's not a glitch...

[opa_nuklear]

clogging tactic is not bannable. there is nothing in the rules...so please dont distract from the argumentation why its a glitch or not
the last update says that clogging is reduced/fixed. can you comment it pls?

if its fixed----> its not a glitch and the rules dont forbid it.
if its not fixed ----> it is a glitch and somebody should update the rules.

right now it looks like arbitrariness because you cant argument why its a glitch and switch to another point to blame us(clogging tactic) that is definetly not mentioned in the rules

[n1ll3]

I am sure we really need a ruleupdate here. When i read the rues rules i cant see that clogging is bannable! And since when it this meta bannable? 20 mins until 7 is ok or even 25 but not 30?

@radiancrystal I think opa and the other banned guys just want to get this rule clear. For sure they are confirme with the rules and ( if this is a real rule) they dont broke a rule on purpose. So 7 days for breaking a unclear rule the first time is way to much for me.

[Cryptonox]

It is clearly a glitch in game mechanism. Denying it for your own good makes it even worse, he feels justified to abuse something that is obviously wrong.

[opa_nuklear]

@Cryptonos:
I dont know if you read my previous post but there is a link that proofs that the clog-clitch/bug is reduced or fixed with the last update.
Clogclitch fixed means that there is no clitch anymore which means that there is no rule that forbids to stop building and upping King hp and reg to gain time

[opa_nuklear]

updating to the last version of legion td without updating the gamerules turned clogging into a rulecompliant tactic. lame but rulecompliant

[dweiler]

If you search up the meaning of 'glitch' you will get something like this:

Noun 1. glitch - a fault or defect in a computer program, system, or machine

Using clogging strategy is not a fault or defect in the game, it is just a really overpowered strategy. This rule about exploits and glitches should be about real defects in the game, for example that bosses won't move at all anymore after being entangled by ent, or anything else that is clearly just a fault in programming the game, not OP strategies (in my opinion).

[Uryn]

I don't think clogging can be banned with the rules as they are as well. If you want to have it bannable they have to be changed.

[Cryptonox]

I don't really think game makers intended this to happen, so yes it is glitch exploiting.

Game mechanism allowing this to happen is a glitch.


Ofcourse there are often alot of features in many games that was not intended to be in them but the difference between exploiting them and founding new game play strategies is the outcome. If something is really obviously abusing of something and exploiting system, it is not allowed thing to do.

If I found out a way how my wisps could harvest wood double time faster and I would use it once, yes bad judgement from me. But taking considered adventage on that again and again would make me glitch exploiter.

People who abused this clog feature did it on purpose. It didn't come as a suprise to anyone of them.