[DOTA] [pncc]namoral (Europe)

[CSauce]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 542446.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #16
Your Warcraft III Username: CSauce
Violator's Warcraft III Username: [pncc]namoral (Europe)
Violated Rule(s): not co-operating with team (solo play), Trolling
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): 24:00, 29:00, 31:00, 32:37
Any further thoughts:

(14:15 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: guys
(14:20 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: lets
(14:27 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: try to destroy his fontain?
(14:36) StealYourSoul killed Jolteon
(14:47 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: what do you think?

(24:56 / Allied) CSauce: i rather end it sk;;
(24:59 / Allied) CSauce: they got late game heros;;
(25:51 / Allied) CSauce: we dont want fountatin destroyed
(26:01 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: well i would like to try
(26:11 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: you can try to win alone in this time

(26:37 / Allied) CSauce: or you get reported + ban for not playing with team -.-
(26:43 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: for what?
(26:46 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: you can go
(26:49 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i know the rules
(26:50 / Allied) CSauce: solo play can get you banned -.-
(26:51 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: go try
(26:53 / Allied) CSauce: im serious
(26:55 / Allied) CSauce: play with the team
(26:55 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: no way
(27:01 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: there isnt this rule
(27:06 / Allied) CSauce: yes there is....
(27:06 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: go there to start topic

(27:55 / Allied) CSauce: had someone banned for not pushing with the team..
(28:02 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: kkkkkkk
(28:02 / Allied) CSauce: feel free to take your chances, i gave u warning
(28:03 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: go try
(28:13 / Allied) weLose: they didn't push. late game we fuck them
(28:16 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: please
(28:17 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: go try

(29:08 / Allied) CSauce: push
(29:14 / Allied) CSauce: sk come push
(29:18 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: no
(29:18) Boralao killed [PnCC]Namoral
(29:23 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i will wait your topic
(29:29 / Allied) StealYourSoul: i a playing with pro players
(29:30 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: for not push
(29:36 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i want to see this
(29:37 / Allied) CSauce: -.-
(29:45 / Allied) Boralao: SHUT UP NUB
(29:47 / Allied) Boralao: AND LEAVE
(29:52 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: will be funny
(29:53 / Allied) StealYourSoul: hahahahah
(30:06 / Allied) CSauce: we are gonna lose this, if u play liek that
(30:15 / Allied) StealYourSoul: go fuck yourself
(30:18 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: what hapened whit your topic?

(30:24 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: changed idea?
(30:34 / Allied) CSauce: my purpose is not to ban you
(30:37 / Allied) CSauce: but win the game and end it
(30:40 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: but i want to see
(30:48 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: you told me you will banned
(30:49 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: me
(30:52 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: because not push
(30:56 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i will wait now
(30:56 / Allied) CSauce: i said i will report you
(30:57 / Allied) Boralao: MIDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
(30:58 / Allied) CSauce: not ban u
(30:59 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: yea
(31:02 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: you will report me
(31:04 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i want to see
(31:19 / Allied) CSauce: you know u can get banned for trolling too
(31:27 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i am not trolling i am playing
(31:33 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: but i dont have to go when you want
(31:36 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: so

(32:37 / Allied) CSauce: i will report you for what you did so far,, so just push with us and end it
(32:46 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: man
(32:52 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i am wainting to see your topic
(32:57 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i alredy said
(32:59 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: so
(33:02 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: stop to cry
(33:08 / Allied) CSauce: you will get banned anyways even if u help team now
(33:20 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: who said i didint help team?
(33:33 / Allied) CSauce: solo game play?
(33:40 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i alredy told you
(33:45 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: there isnt this rule
(33:46 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: so
(33:46 / Allied) CSauce: !ignore pncc

[[PnCC]Namoral]

This is for you CSauce. As I was not trolling the game, doing my part as jungle player, helping the team when needed, you can not ask ban for me just because I did not wanted to rush the game at the time you wanted.

Enterprise Gaming Rules
Goal
Our main goal is making your gaming experience as enjoyable as possible. The following rules determine what questionable strategies and actions are prohibited or allowed. Generally, when playing, use only strategies that were intentional by the map makers; do not exploit any aspect of the map that was not intended to be included.

Attention
The general rules apply to any game hosted by ENT except abrogated by game specific rules. Violating them might result in a warning or ban.

General Rules
Do not spam chat during games.
Do not flame, rage, troll, or insult other players excessively.
Do not leave before the game has certainly ended, especially if no other player has left.
Do not delay a game from starting by joining/leaving multiple times or otherwise.
Do not lie about modes. If you intend to choose a non-default mode or if there is no known default mode, announce the mode in lobby or vote ingame/in lobby.
Do not deceive players about rules in an attempt to get them banned (note, !draw is not an obligation, but a vote).
Any form of votekick abuse.
Do not ruin the game on purpose:
Do not teamkill (ex. blocking, maliciously using spells, destroying/hiding/stealing/massing items, selling towers, etc).
Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.
Do not feed or suicide on purpose which negatively affects the game.
Do not save or pause the game while playing in order to distract players and hinder gameplay.
Do not ghost by leaking information to your enemies/opponents.
Do not purposely glitch or exploit the game.
If teammates shared control, do not abuse it.
Do not dodge your bans. Dodging is defined as playing on a different account while being banned on another account, often by a (purposely triggered) change of the IP. Dodging is considered a major offense equal to maphacking.
The use of any utility that hides your real IP (proxies/vpns, etc.).
The use of any utility (FCD, maphack, stream sniping, etc.) that gives you an unfair advantage over other players will result in a heavy ban.
Do not multibox. Using two computers/two accounts to be in one (and the same) game as one human being is not allowed.
Do not impersonate any Enterprise Gaming authority (be it a staff member or our bot).
Do not threat or mock community members and do not ddos or dox them.

[CSauce]

Example of other players that did not cooperate with team: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=100920&p=400535&hilit=solo+play+dota#p400535

[Emperor]

Actually there is a rule about "refusing to team play". I haven't watched this replay but just looking at obvious numbers your whole team had 63 assists and you only accounted for 5 of them.

That is pretty telling if you ask me...

[[PnCC]Namoral]

Well, if there is a rule about it, it might be better update the wiki, because apparently there is nothing there. But who plays dota know it's normal for a hero like sk go jungle and when team needed, he come to the game. It turns out that CSauce wanted to rush and finish fast with the game, only he wanted it. In no time the rest of the team said the same. And he wanted to make me to rush the time he wanted. If there is a rule that says I have to rush when another player want, then tell me please that I shall follow it. He wanted to rush fast and I was late game to try to destroy the source. At no time I did not help the team or troll somehow the game, whenever needed I was there. If you have any doubt watch the game.

[[PnCC]Namoral]

And Emperor, i got only 5 assist because i was the jungle player, this is the rason.

[CSauce]

(29:08 / Allied) CSauce: push
(29:14 / Allied) CSauce: sk come push
(29:18 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: no
(29:23 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i will wait your topic
(29:29 / Allied) StealYourSoul: i a playing with pro players
(29:30 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: for not push
(29:36 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i want to see this
(29:37 / Allied) CSauce: -.-

We had to push as 4v5... You troll... don't even try to argue that you played as a "sk" that farms jungle all game. Clearly you didn't help the team because you wanted to see if you get banned or not

[[PnCC]Namoral]

lol CSauce, you are funny dude. So I have to to rush when you decide that I have to to rush? And to say that I'll wait to see your topic means I'm trolling the game? Do not be ridiculous CSauce. Why not ask to watch the game? It would be much easier because supposedly you're right.

[CSauce]

I say you were trolling because you didn't join team fights knowingly. I don't think you participated in any team fights, you solo jungled the entire game 179 jungle creeps. You didn't help when we were team fighting or pushing.

You say Im the only one saying push, however we were all pushing and team fighting as 4 players without you the entire game.
I am only stating the facts, and if you think this is funny and ridiculous, go watch the reply again and you will know what kind of troll you were.

No idea why I even respond to this troll -.-

Im done here, enjoy your ban...

[[PnCC]Namoral]

Yea yea sure, the only way to some admin to give me ban in this is case it is dont watching the game, you should banned because this, not me. Talking about fake rules and not telling true things.

[ReapersWitness]

Just to add to the convo, [PnCC]Namoral has trolled me before doing the exact same thing. I didn't submit, I just avoid being on same team with him going forward.

[[PnCC]Namoral]

Lol, kkkkk another account or just CSauce friend? Where is your game link Reapers?

[SeriouslyStrange]

@[PnCC]Namoral
It is most definitely bannable to not push/help if the whole (or majority of) team is there.
Given by the chatlog that I just saw (posted above) it definitely looks like you were trolling.
(22:07 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: dont rush yet
(22:09 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: or they go ff
(26:11 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: you can try to win alone in this time
Want to explain this chatlog to me?
The whole game is riddled with you saying things like this.

[[PnCC]Namoral]

@[PnCC]Namoral
It is most definitely bannable to not push/help if the whole (or majority of) team is there.
Given by the chatlog that I just saw (posted above) it definitely looks like you were trolling.
(22:07 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: dont rush yet
(22:09 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: or they go ff
(26:11 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: you can try to win alone in this time
Want to explain this chatlog to me?
The whole game is riddled with you saying things like this.

Yes thanks! That's exactly. Only this CSave wanted it to end early with the game. No other member of the team commented. Show me a line chat or some part of the game where it says that the team's opinion is the same as his and I'll agree.

About chatlog It is easy to explain, will be better whit you whatch the game, but i understand this take time.
It turns out that 22 minutes into the game, our team with my help was all very fed, and how I wanted to play I told to not to rush yet, surely they would ask FF. What is happening here is simple, it happens that the CSauce player wanted to end quickly with the game and I did not, he is using some of my lines in chat to say that I was not helping the team and trolling the game, if you watch the game will see that this is not true, whenever necessary I helped, but as the team was very fed largely by my help and participation in early in the game, they usualy dont need me, but I did not stop to help.

You can see all this in this chat lines.

(14:15 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: guys
(14:20 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: lets
(14:27 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: try to destroy his fontain?
(14:36) StealYourSoul killed Jolteon
(14:47 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: what do you think?
(14:55 / Allied) CSauce: zeus 60 mana
(15:03) BHZ.German killed Boralinho
(15:09) Puck_U killed HagardDuNord
(15:12 / Allied) Jolteon: ah i was out of mana
(15:19 / Allied) weLose: !ff
(15:19 / All) [PnCC]Namoral: [weLose] has voted to forfeit.
(15:19 / All) [PnCC]Namoral: 1/5 players on the Scourge/East have voted to forfeit (4/5 needed to pass).
(15:21 / Allied) HagardDuNord: me tooo
(15:25 / Allied) Boralinho: -no
(15:51 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: so guys
(15:54 / Allied) CSauce: tp bottom someone
(15:55 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: what do you think about?
(16:00 / Allied) CSauce: u have an item build to kill fountatin sk?
(16:04 / Allied) CSauce: i dunno how its done
(16:04 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: yes
(16:06 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i have
(16:06 / Allied) Jolteon: we need other heros to destroy fountain
(16:21 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i can tank

No other member of the team said I do not want to do it. Or agree with CSave and will soon finish the game. Only this guy wanted to force to do what he wanted me, his opinion did not represent the opinion of the team.

(31:27 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: i am not trolling i am playing
(31:33 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: but i dont have to go when you want
(31:36 / Allied) [PnCC]Namoral: so

These chat lines you can see that I was playing seriously and helping the team. It's very different trol the game. I do not speak English very well, and the limitation of words, at times my talk does not help me (here i am using google translate), but trol is very different. Search on chat some other member of the team in answer or talking to me and you will not find, this guy wanted to force me to do what he wanted, what only he wanted to do.


SeriouslyStrange
"It is most definitely bannable to not push/help if the whole (or majority of) team is there." Can you show me where can i find this rules? Because was looking for at wiki and i didint find. I was looking here http://wiki.entgaming.net/index.php?tit ... ming:Rules. Thank you!

[EdgeOfChaos]

Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.