LIHLDiabloDuck

[BeepBoopBeep]

Let me get right to the point, I'm not going to tip toe around this so today in LIHL i played a game with the #1 Placed on the public elo chart, Donaldtheduckie. Review the reply for evidence but i will explain how i see the events that happened in short, donald leaks level 4-8 and 10, and calls to "go mass" on level 10 which clearly if you take a look at our units we are going to leak 3 lanes to king and lose.

I accept letting this person lead as a HUGE mistake because clearly his knowledge of the game is minimal as you can see from his game play but i thought since he is #1 elo on the Public bot i trusted him.

If this player doesn't know what can pass level 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8 also level 10 i question why he got accepted to join this league in the first place.

Please note straight after the game, the player whispered me that "i still owed him an apology from the time this happened to him".

What i want to know is if deliberately losing the game or simply being scrub can result in being unvouched?

[supersexyy]

I'd like to watch the replay but I can't at the moment.

Here are my general thoughts: Intentional game ruining will indeed lead to an unvouch while a gross misjudgment will not. There is a fine line between them but I do not support an unvouch unless game ruining is 100% confirmed.

[dweiler]

Dude he is nearly last place, what did you expect?

[BeepBoopBeep]

Dude he is nearly last place, what did you expect?

Which player is #1? https://clanent.net/customstats/legionmega/top/

[dweiler]

We all know his epic smurf is doing all the pro work for him there

[BeepBoopBeep]

Then why is he in this league?

[dweiler]

Cos he easily meets the reqs

[BeepBoopBeep]

So he met the reqs but his smurf did all the work? so i question why he is in the league if he got the requirements by being boosted by another player?

[bit]

I'll be honest. I don't care if u guys don't like each other because of your pub elo race or something. This is not pub, we don't need such a low drama here. This topic is a complete joke and will lead nowhere than flame wars. You both should drop the fights and move on. Anyone who will be suspected in ruining game on purpose will be unvouched no matter the elo score, don't worry about this.

[BeepBoopBeep]

Anyone who will be suspected in ruining game on purpose will be unvouched no matter the elo score.

I suspected this person of game ruining? so how this is a joke to you really suprises me since you are a moderator

[dweiler]

No worries bit, i was just trying to make a joke to avoid any drama, guess it isn't working :p

[BeepBoopBeep]

All you need to do is watch the replay and tell me if this guy should be in a "pro league" or not? if not then lets get him unvouched, since we want good players in the league don't we?

[dweiler]

Dude the game after he owned us pretty much single handed.. wtf is this hate?

[bit]

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16:26    [Allies] BeepBoopBeep: you going 7/7?
16:34    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: i can cover ten if you need me to
16:36    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: lmk now
16:40    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: or 7/7
16:45    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: either one idc
17:01    [Allies] LihlDiabloDuck: go mass
17:08    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: beep
17:11    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: what you want me to do
17:13    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: i can do either
17:21    [Allies] BeepBoopBeep: you aint gonna hold 10 now
17:23    [Allies] BeepBoopBeep: so go 7/7
17:42    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: with wyvs and dragonhawk i can
17:42    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: :/

19:29    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: thats gg
19:30    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: :/
19:36    [Game Command] iightfyre: -king
19:41    [Allies] BeepBoopBeep: ofc lol
19:49    [Allies] BeepBoopBeep: donald is playing for other team
19:53    [Allies] AvitaeNoir: lol
19:56    [Allies] LihlDiabloDuck: lol


this conversation started on lvl 9. you did'nt even say up king to Avitae after he asked what to do, so he massed with Duckie before income timer. Sure, you feel sad about the loss, but nobody is perfect, we all making a bad calls sometimes. I'm not quite sure u would hold it even with up after lvl 9 start. Please, guys, forget the past, and move on. League should be a friendly place where people chill, without any bickerfests.

[iightfyre]

I watched the replay, and from my point of view, it was not the best game play that I've seen but it's hard to make a concrete case that this is a legitimate TK. Although Donald over-incomed for his moon guard build he did stop upping his lumber and continued to try to "catch" up on his build after leaking lvls 4 and 5. He did build the units that he could for 7, 8 and 10 which weren't enough because of early failure but they were the right choice.

I was intrigued that he built so close to the front of his spawn point but when I looked at other replays where he was the "single" lane in 3v3, he did the same thing in those. So he did not change his build for this game in particular.

I simply don't see evidence of a deliberate TK here. I do see a player who overvalued his moon guard and ended up paying the price. This was a mistake and he tried to recover... I don't see this as a TK. If it were a deliberate TK, it was very well hidden. He did have 1800 value on lvl 10 with 3 wyverns. I would say that he tried in my opinion.

This thread is about suspision of team killing. Let's please stick to the topic at hand and end the flame wars. Flaming in forums is against ENT rules.

What i want to know is if deliberately losing the game or simply being scrub can result in being unvouched?

1. I don't see concrete evidence of Donald deliberately losing this game
2. Being "scrub" will eventually result in being unvouched. We haven't determined a time line or set guidelines as to what "scrub" means but we will be "trimming the fat" most likely at the end of season one to keep this league highly competitive.

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