darkmercenary. map hack

[TTR.Cloud]

I left it open for other admins to check, but I am almost certain they will not find any proof.

I can't ban someone for 3 months just because I think they might be maphacking. We need solid proof. I'm pretty sure most of you have no idea how to find this proof, so please don't blame me before you know what you're talking about.

Btw, IMMI is Buganima. (Or at least they have the same IP)

EDIT: The ban on buganima@west was made because of a glitch in the replay. I sincerely apologize and he will be unbanned soon. (No it was not a delayed fog click, I'm not that stupid -_-)

[Illidanisdead]

Just to note I've played with Dark before, he seems to be good with map awareness rather than hacking, two very different things I believe. On another note I have not watched this replay >_<

[DarkMercenary.]

Just watched the replay.

7:00 hook slark before he shows up
8:30 hook slark in fog

Slark was nowhere near mid at these times. Please make up more bullshit?
However, at around 8:23, you (SA) walked in tower range and got hit, then you ran back. So yes, I tried to blind hook you.

9:10 Dark green was disapper on the map , pudge started bot beofre dark green show up

Bullshit. DG was Omniknight, and he was clearly visible at BOT. The guy wasn't even IN MY LANE. What are you talking about?

9:26 i went to help darkgreen but pudge just walk back

More bullshit. At 9:26, you were in your base while DG was still at bot with Spiritbreaker. I'm beginning to think you're pulling these accusations out of your ass.

9:45 iffy backs up instead of going for rune cuz sb was there coming. not sure if maybe he was charged.

What are you talking about? SB was at bot creeping with Omniknight.

10:00 i was try 2 ambush, pudge did not come in

Ambush what? You were defending top with Ursa.

10:19 pudge uses arcane boots and moves from sb charge before even visible.iffy

Um... I was in Scourge's jungle at TOP as Ursa killed Krobelus. SB was still at bottom with Omniknight...........

11:45 hook dark green in fog cross river

False. At this time, Krob and Tiny are chasing DG. I ran sideways after seeing Ursa run up the hill shortly before this.

11:50 hook dg in fog. sheer luck maybe?

Another false accusation. Tiny successfully kills DG with aid from Krob.

14:00 places wards then backs up from his normal path with two heroes incoming not visible from ward yet. iffy

I am not placing wards at 14:00. However I did hook DG through fog, by pure luck. Although looking at the replay, had I known how close SA + bara were, how quickly they would get to me, I would not have tried something so risky.

14:30 hook ursa in fog

NOPE. At 14:30, you were going to bot lane, and I was going to fountain to heal.

14:40 not chasing slark, maybe cuz ursa on other side of trees? or just maybe crazy pro map awareness.

Negative. Yes, Ursa is somewhat near Slark at this point in time, but I'm still in my fountain.

16:30 hook sb in fog (he did use the image to search people but pudge hooked before the image find out sb)

16:40 uses images to roam forest, turns from main path of going mid to forest which then i noticed either superPRO reactions to hook enemy hero at there neutral camp before his image arrives to clear fog..really suspicious here.
note: notice he aint using his image after that too continue to roam forest? instead pursues running away from forest. iffy.

Time stamps must be wrong or something, but I downloaded the same replay posted by IMMI, so this is weird. But anyway, it starts around 18:48 for me. However, around 18:36, you'll see that SB actually retreats from top. Please also note the ward that I placed at top rune, and the side of the cliff tree that I put it on (not many realize this). If done properly, you can catch movement in that neutral camp, signifying that someone is creeping. Because I didn't see any, and my clone scouted the next camp, I guessed Bara's spot. And given the location of the creeps at top lane, why would Bara be creeping at the farthest 2 spots on Scourge's side? He might as well be in the lane since it was right there.

Lost count of the number of times I had to start this replay over to see if I missed anything. But to me it looks like a bunch of made-up accusations from IMMI. I understand if you're frustrated when you lost with your friend after playing against me and my friends. One of our guys played SA and followed your friend during the game. His pathing was pretty hilarious to watch, seeing as you guys didn't place any wards or anything. And for the record, I do taunt when I play--probably more than really necessary. Dota without trashtalk just isn't the same. But I'll stop now.

[IMMI]

You know immi, what's funny is the ban request you posted before this (accusing my entire team of mh) when adventureclub found a fogclick on me done by your FRIEND that played Ursa. Now you go and make more accusations directed at me? I play with admins on both east and west. I'd me a moron to hack. And ivan-drago, I've never gone mid solo with Puck before. The only int heroes I play are probably Invoker, Furion, and OD. You've mistaken me for someone else.

EDIT:

The 2nd time play with him, he was left after 20 min.Beacsue our team is too pro.

What's with all these lies? I've never left a game, let alone leave after 20 minutes because your team was "too pro." I'd appreciate it if you didn't make up bullshit.

You were korb I'm sure that's u left.

[DarkMercenary.]

Fact: I've never played Krob on ENT.

Maybe you should stop making up shit.

[IMMI]

Fact: I've never played Krob on ENT.

Maybe you should stop making up shit.

i wish ent boot could save replay like dotacash

[adventureclub]

Just watched the replay.

7:00 hook slark before he shows up
8:30 hook slark in fog

Slark was nowhere near mid at these times. Please make up more bullshit?
However, at around 8:23, you (SA) walked in tower range and got hit, then you ran back. So yes, I tried to blind hook you.

9:10 Dark green was disapper on the map , pudge started bot beofre dark green show up

Bullshit. DG was Omniknight, and he was clearly visible at BOT. The guy wasn't even IN MY LANE. What are you talking about?

9:26 i went to help darkgreen but pudge just walk back

More bullshit. At 9:26, you were in your base while DG was still at bot with Spiritbreaker. I'm beginning to think you're pulling these accusations out of your ass.

9:45 iffy backs up instead of going for rune cuz sb was there coming. not sure if maybe he was charged.

What are you talking about? SB was at bot creeping with Omniknight.

10:00 i was try 2 ambush, pudge did not come in

Ambush what? You were defending top with Ursa.

10:19 pudge uses arcane boots and moves from sb charge before even visible.iffy

Um... I was in Scourge's jungle at TOP as Ursa killed Krobelus. SB was still at bottom with Omniknight...........

11:45 hook dark green in fog cross river

False. At this time, Krob and Tiny are chasing DG. I ran sideways after seeing Ursa run up the hill shortly before this.

11:50 hook dg in fog. sheer luck maybe?

Another false accusation. Tiny successfully kills DG with aid from Krob.

14:00 places wards then backs up from his normal path with two heroes incoming not visible from ward yet. iffy

I am not placing wards at 14:00. However I did hook DG through fog, by pure luck. Although looking at the replay, had I known how close SA + bara were, how quickly they would get to me, I would not have tried something so risky.

14:30 hook ursa in fog

NOPE. At 14:30, you were going to bot lane, and I was going to fountain to heal.

14:40 not chasing slark, maybe cuz ursa on other side of trees? or just maybe crazy pro map awareness.

Negative. Yes, Ursa is somewhat near Slark at this point in time, but I'm still in my fountain.

16:30 hook sb in fog (he did use the image to search people but pudge hooked before the image find out sb)

16:40 uses images to roam forest, turns from main path of going mid to forest which then i noticed either superPRO reactions to hook enemy hero at there neutral camp before his image arrives to clear fog..really suspicious here.
note: notice he aint using his image after that too continue to roam forest? instead pursues running away from forest. iffy.

Time stamps must be wrong or something, but I downloaded the same replay posted by IMMI, so this is weird. But anyway, it starts around 18:48 for me. However, around 18:36, you'll see that SB actually retreats from top. Please also note the ward that I placed at top rune, and the side of the cliff tree that I put it on (not many realize this). If done properly, you can catch movement in that neutral camp, signifying that someone is creeping. Because I didn't see any, and my clone scouted the next camp, I guessed Bara's spot. And given the location of the creeps at top lane, why would Bara be creeping at the farthest 2 spots on Scourge's side? He might as well be in the lane since it was right there.

Lost count of the number of times I had to start this replay over to see if I missed anything. But to me it looks like a bunch of made-up accusations from IMMI. I understand if you're frustrated when you lost with your friend after playing against me and my friends. One of our guys played SA and followed your friend during the game. His pathing was pretty hilarious to watch, seeing as you guys didn't place any wards or anything. And for the record, I do taunt when I play--probably more than really necessary. Dota without trashtalk just isn't the same. But I'll stop now.

There is replay timer and also in-game timer. That is why you think the stamps are off. However, even though some of these plays for instance, when you guys try to go gank omni at bot. Your teammate was thinking to go where he would have been if he continued walking, but for some reason you went straight to him where he stood in the fog. There is no evidence of maphack in this replay besides some deselections. Also some of your movements where bara charged krob and you literally moved to the side to avoid the charge bashline. Otherwise you showed very good playing skill regardless if there was maphack or not. I guess the other mods aren't going to watch or post about this request so as far as Im concerned this is denied.