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ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby ltdhype » Sun Jun 11, 2017 4:47 pm

Your Warcraft III username: steamrogue
Realm/Gateway: europe
Why are you banned: i will tell you what exacly happened,i was playing engineers and i was holding level 8 and 9 so i went mid,in same time i was watching lforward stream,and he said on stream"oh teal hold he must overbuilding",and i just replied him back,no i didnt overbuild,after that he acused me for sniping,but i didnt say anything to my team about their units,you can just check the chat and you will see,i just dont know why ppl just trust him without any evidence and start to acuse me about somehing i dont even know what means.

Why you should be unbanned: first of all i dont even know why im banned since i didnt say anything on chat(you can check the chat if you dont trust me,or you can just blind trust lforward like he is god)
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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby bezdak » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:35 pm

@ltdhype
Stream sniping is acquiring information you normally wouldn't have by watching the stream. It it specifically mentioned in our rules as a heavy punishable offense right next to using a map hack, which has basically the same exact effect than a stream sniping in LTD.
ltdhype wrote:suddenly lforward started to accuse me about sniping without any proof

You were reacting in his chat on things he said on stream and you're saying he had no proof?
ltdhype wrote: first of all i dont even know why im banned

You had information about his whole roll, all of our rolls, values, incomes, pushes, sends and you even heard his comments about his future plans, our building and even your team's building after arena. That's even more info you'd have using a map hack. Do you still think you were banned for nothing?

Regarding the ban length, I will discuss it with the rest of the staff later today.
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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby ltdhype » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:38 pm

yes its true i had all the informations about his team,but again i didnt say anything on my team chat about that,so what plan i could make or strategy against them if i dont give to my team any informations

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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby DrChemba » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:28 pm

hey @ltdhype i was watching the stream too.

just a advice ,

don't accuse anyone unless you know what is going on
you need to read the rules first in my opinion
Do you understand what stream sniping is ?
it is you watching a player stream who is playing in the opposite team
you didn't give the information to anyone but that is not relevant cause you can make or influence calls on what you see, even build depending on when the enemy team plans to send
i also thought it was harsh since it looked like you were unaware of the rules ( but it is only your fault )
it was silly of you to do it
and you still not knowing what rule you broke is a shame

hope you take this positively and think on it
good day :)

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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby ltdhype » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:32 pm

hey, here is your rules
LTD 1200+

The default modes are -hpgmcb prophet and -phgmcb. The mode -pr (prophet randomized) is allowed aswell, but mode setter (red) must announce it in the lobby before the game starts. Every player must be informed, so they have the opportunity to leave in case of dislike.
All players must solo build: build only on own lane and cannot build a tower that will attack and pull a creep from the opposite lane.
Refusing to cooperate when asked to do so several times by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win.
Refusing to build in attempt to teamkill.
Selling value at any point in the game in order to stall time and gain advantage on a racing level is forbidden.
Do not build over 120 value of delay towers.
Do not intentionally split to stall time, except to send double-demon.
Do not juggle the king preventing him from attacking or killing units.
Do not change the king's target to delay killing, except to efficiently kill multiple targets or kill higher priority targets such as sent units or low hp units. Range stomping and backward waving is allowed.
Anti-Stuck cannot be used unless creeps are actually stuck. In that case, anti-stuck must be used.

still i cant see any stream sniping there or maybe im blind?

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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby KiwiLeKiller » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:35 pm

Maybe you should read what was above the text you copy/pasted?
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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby Jabba41 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 6:45 pm

The use of any utility (FCD, maphack, stream sniping, etc.) that gives you an unfair advantage over other players will result in a heavy ban.

@ltdhype How about that ?


We understand that you didnt shared the information with your team, yet it impacted your gameplay for sure in some way and you dont even seem to care. Is maphacking fine in your eyes even if you dotn share the information with your mates?
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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby ltdhype » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:04 pm

no maphacking isnt fine not only in legion td but in any games,i dont know how that impacted my gameplay because i build phantom and i would go for them anyway untill level 17

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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby Jabba41 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:06 pm

You understand why maphack is banned ? One reason is that you get access to information that you shouldnt have.

Keeping this in mind, eleborate on what you did, please.
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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby ltdhype » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:12 pm

yes i understand maphacking gives you clearly all the informations you need to win the game,still i didn't take the advantage and use them to make any strategy,now you decide what to do

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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby Jabba41 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:14 pm

@ltdhype So you dont see a problem in watching the stream of an opponent player ?
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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby ltdhype » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:16 pm

In my opinion it is a problem when you are watching and take the advantage to win the game,yes it is true you cant know if im lying or not,but if you watch the replay you can see i went for phantom and i would go for them untill level 17 as i said

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Re: ban for nothing thx to ent community

Postby Jabba41 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 7:22 pm

Sure, you still took the opportunity to get to know what your enemy is doing. You gained access to information that you shouldnt have. If you tell your enemys in a normal game "my mate has spawn" maybe it will impact the game, maybe not... it is wrong and against the rules nontheless. Think about this topic and what i and others told you.

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