[LTD] itsrobert@useast.battle.net

[Aighiun]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/customstats/legio ... e/9464867/
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #12
Your Warcraft III Username: Aighiun
Violator's Warcraft III Username: itsrobert
Violated Rule(s): tk, asking for advice and not listening to teammates
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): whole game
Any further thoughts:

[itsrobert]

During this game I was harassed, not given advice. Also the game results show that red (Aighuim) leaked the most, had crap units, and failed king at end. They were forcing me to play their exact way....that's not breaking a rule.

[Jabba41]

@Aighiun Provide timestamps and actually tell us how he teamkilled. Not listening to advice isnt banable by default.

[itsrobert]

Mine as well close this down....since if you watch the replay, he clearly lost us the game easy.

[Aighiun]

What i should start with...
On (06:06 / Allied) itsRobert: -here to learn.
Level 6 start with him saving 155g, and he is asked to push that to lumber by all teammates:
(09:28 / Allied) itsRobert: i should hold right?
(09:39 / Allied) Aighiun: yeah
(09:40 / Allied) Aighiun: push
(10:50 / Allied) Legionaire[1o1]: PUSH
(10:56 / Allied) cLicK.: push teal
(10:57 / Allied) cLicK.: dafug
Level 7 building in order to hold when had already 2 holders and he leaks. Still 4/2 on lumberjack.
Level 8, using antistuck on teammates units
Level 9&10, once more he is advice to push
(17:17 / Allied) Legionaire[1o1]: push
(17:17 / Allied) Legionaire[1o1]: teal
(18:12 / Allied) Legionaire[1o1]: push teal
After arena we were discussing strategies, and we all agreed to stay 7/5 and he again doing different:
(22:58 / Allied) cLicK.: its slow game
(23:01 / Allied) cLicK.: 7/5
Pushing 7/6 with holding units for race level. Result, close lose.
All teammates agreed to request a ban for his behavior in this game. Ok, we understand he is not used to this different playstyle and ignoring the AS he did on 8, we hope you teach him a lesson we couldn't, to cooperate and stop doing different things on purpose that ultimatly affects the team.

[Aighiun]

Wow, i had a nice time reading @itsrobert posts and noticed that he kinda is a Denis the menace.
I quote two of his recent posts, hoping he realise that what he did in this game and the next one (https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=9464967)
is same as he complains:
- "Violated Rule(s): 1. Game ruining by not building when needed, person got mad and only upped. Team begged him to build, but he went 7/15 first." (viewtopic.php?f=24&t=101972)
- "I was trying to cross with a guy who was trying to team kill. Once I called his shit out, he started doing it normal, but he had seconds to build do to his fucking around. Tired of the noobs that been gaming ent lately" (viewtopic.php?f=25&t=111602)
On 1200+, LTD is more strategic due to more skillful players, and most of the times, cooperating with other 3 teammates is essential for winning. Working as a team doesn't make you a sheep, makes you a winner, in general, not just in LTD.

[THEDUCKMAN]

itsrobert is a troll. played with him before probably tk on purpose. he doesnt need advice he knows the game and rules well enough

[itsrobert]

You know, when people disrespect me, I give them the same attitude back. I don't team kill, nor do I have a purpose of team killing. Most the time I play I'm with respectful people, people who know how to play the game. Then, I get teamed up with people who try to control every second of what I'm doing. I understand in advice, but you're not 100% right in your calling, therefor I don't have to force myself to lose on your behalf. When you disrespect me by belittling me, you distract me from the game to cause me to argue and take medicine. All because you can't be a decent human being and let some one play the game peacefully. I have lead a lot of successful games, won 4v2's, I've coached noobs for some major wins. If I'm playing income, I do as I'm told...that's part of the team. When I ask for the same and I get shit on, I get raged for sure. Aighuim lost us that game, plain and simple. I stopped enough in my lane, I sent just as much as everyone else did, and I did it my way. These people are mad because I didn't do what they wanted me to on my solo lane. To make sure I don't rage as much, I've been enforcing the ignore button myself.

[itsrobert]

Also, I checked through the records, I've never played with anyone named "theblackduck." This person is a liar, who the hell are you?

[Jabba41]

Banned 2 days. Not the first time he refused to cooperate with his team.

@itsrobert Taking advice should at least be considered

[itsrobert]

This is a load of bull. "Not the first time he refused to cooperate with his team." You know how many people didn't cooperate with me and ended up showing me up. These people were making calls I was not familiar with, so I can build the way I want. As you said "Taking advice SHOULD at least be considered." So you banned me for what rule did I break? Because if you watch the replay like a real mod would, you would see red lost us that game, not me. Sick and tired of you Jabba, get your facts.

[Jabba41]

@itsrobert Feel free to post for 2nd opinion or appeal the ban itself.

Processing.

[Merex]

@Jabba41 @itsrobert Starting with incident #1:

-Level 6. You ask your team if you'll hold and they say to push. You ignore all 3 of your teammates and build a pit for 7. This alone should be warranted to for a ban in my opinion because you're playing in the 1200+ atmosphere which is heavily based on team cooperation/coordination which you simply weren't providing here. Whether you think you are in the wrong or right is out of the question here, it's about showing team play. If you can't trust the words of all 3 teammates then I don't know how you operate in 1200+ without being banned every single game.

-Level 9. Again, they say push and you don't push. Most of what I said above resembles here greatly.

-Level 11. Team says to stay 7/5 and you continue pushing to 7/6.. Do you see the reoccurring issue here?

While I understand you wanted to "build your way", that's not how LTD +1200 operates and you should know that by now. Doing what you did is a clear case of Teamkill and given the fact you have over a thousand games and this is your 3rd offense on refusing to cooperate, I'm actually surprised the ban was capped at 2 days.

As a secondary moderator on review, I stand by Jabba41 on this ban and believe that it is legitimate. I don't see any "personal attacks" or biased judgement.