pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

[CrowsZero]

No vendetta against you. I'm just following up with my statement about looking at you after you are unbanned. Just explain the tower dive hook, the top haste rune, and the waiting for pl in scourge forest while 3 other enemy heroes are nearby while none of your team mates came to gank with you.

[ForMaDawgS]

my empty bottle cause i wanted to refresh pudge hes fat needs water, random dive on pl i like tower diving and risking it all and my so called gank on pl, i had no idea 3 enemies were near if i did why the fuck did i stay there...
i don't even remember this game i play like 5-6 a day lol there are 3 valid reasons for my game play not stick it,

this is to go for your so called mh..

be nice??? you have some personal vendetta against me my movements are as i play pudge solo and random as fuck ask karasu please do hes seen my pudge i am not your average pudge player.

i play randomly nothing makes since im usually drunk or high,... i do not maphack

[CrowsZero]

my empty bottle cause i wanted to refresh pudge hes fat needs water, random dive on pl i like tower diving and risking it all and my so called gank on pl, i had no idea 3 enemies were near if i did why the fuck did i stay there...
i don't even remember this game i play like 5-6 a day lol there are 3 valid reasons for my game play not stick it,


p.s bane is noob lol

Ummm. Most people don't tp to tower, use bottle, and head straight for rune. PL coulda went back to base to heal, hide in the trees above the tower or just plainly push in VISION. You saw none of that and yet you dived and sent a hook exactly where pl was but you missed. You guys just got owned mid and the enemy backed out. Your allies didn't want to pursue cuzz they don't know where the enemy heroes went. You pinged to gank forest, none of your allies came at when you went and stood next to where PL was neutralling. Well, your ENT life depends on your memory right now.

[ForMaDawgS]

like im gonna allow some shit head go on my computer lol, btw my pudge play is random and really its not based on memory at all you have the replay i would like to see what they have to say because this isnt just one crazy hook and ban none of what i did can really suggest mh. runes pop up every 2 mins. thats a high probabilty of it being 1 of 2 places and secondly my tower dive is sexy and why would pl run back he has no point in running away.

[CrowsZero]

like im gonna allow some shit head go on my computer lol, btw my pudge play is random and really its not based on memory at all you have the replay i would like to see what they have to say because this isnt just one crazy hook and ban none of what i did can really suggest mh. runes pop up every 2 mins. thats a high probabilty of it being 1 of 2 places and secondly my tower dive is sexy and why would pl run back he has no point in running away.

No player, even flowersnow, I seen a couple of his games, would use bottle after they just re-spawn and head straight for a rune and hope its there. The runes spawning every 2 mins are understandable, but you using the bottle before checking is not. He replied "NO PUDGE" to you after you missed hook, he could've done many things. You really need to start using some answers that makes sense. I never called out that you went to every rune, I called out the bottle using part.

[ForMaDawgS]

well either way i wasn't maphacking so i mean if i have to break it down even more then its sad... ima take a shower work was a bitch lol, i need some beeerrrrrrrrrrrrs

[CrowsZero]

Yea today was tiring as well. See you in the morning Formadawgs!

[CrowsZero]

my empty bottle cause i wanted to refresh pudge hes fat needs water, random dive on pl i like tower diving and risking it all

See...this is where I get to use the smoking gun. Here's a blast from the past.

a shot in the dark, why don't you throw hooks every time you go up a hill?

In the game I am accusing you of, why don't you continuously tower dive for heroes if that was how you like to play, doing tower dives and throw blind hooks. You only tower dived once and never again, you barely threw blind hooks if at all but only once or twice through out the game. Meaning your theory of random diving is a clear lie. You had a chance to tower dive fire panda when he was alone as well as you being alone top lane but you didn't. You had multiple chances to tower dive all game till the moment you left game because fire panda had a triple kill, he killed you in his triple kill. You have to be consistent in your story and your game play.

[WoDota]

I think Forma should only be allowed to play on ENT Connect

[QTriNitY]

Game info - https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1420622
Game name - [ENT] DotA apem us/ca #34
Player - pudges@uswest.battle.net

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Incident #1
08:50 - Pudge respawned and TP-ed to Top tier 2 tower, headed towards Top Rune location while emptying his Bottle prior confirming Rune Location.
09:07 - Pudge gained vision of Top Haste Rune.
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08:07 & 09:05 - Prior gaining vision of Top Haste Rune, Legion Commander (Ally - Blue) was neutral creeping in a camp nearest to Bottom Rune's location on 2 occasions.
Blue's vision of Rune spot was impaired during these 2 incidents due to Night and Positioning.
For the entire period during 08:07 - 09:05 Pudge did not request Blue to scout Bottom Rune's location.
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Incident #2
10:30 to 11:15 - This was the best moment to grab runes as most Sentinels and Scourge heroes were engaged at top.
Situation would demand Pudge to check Top river, grab a lucky Rune and join the engagement but Pudge proceeded to Bottom River instead.
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Incident #3
18:55 to 19:07 - Ember retreated into the woods beyond Scourge Tier 1 Tower after a failed hook revealing Pudge's position.
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19:07 - Pudge was seen lurking and waiting for Ember's reappearance
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19:14 to 19:17 - Ember channels and escapes with TP.
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19:19 - 2 secs after Ember's departure in FOW, Pudge ended his wait and made his lane appearance.
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19:54 - Pudge pulled plug.
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DRM analysis.

DRM Time 12:25 estimates Game Time at 12:27
No visual selection from 12:24 to 12:28 on Phantom Lancer. The actual selection should appear on 12:27 but never did and thus FCD did not sound a delayed click.
12:27 was the last Global vision of PL.
12:25 <PUDGES> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Phantom Lancer], 0x0000C216000067D0

12:23 to 12:29 - Pudge view on Phantom Lancer - http://youtu.be/vqjk0ujDW1g

12:24 - Green Selection on Pudge
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12:25 - Green Selection on Pudge
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12:26 - Green Selection on Pudge
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12:27 - Green Selection on Pudge / Phantom Lancer under FOW
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12:28 - Green Selection on Pudge / Phantom Lancer under FOW
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My conclusion, map hack.

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Actual DRM
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[karasu.]

I'm not really convinced he hacks, I watched him on dota cash and there was no signification to me that he hacks and keep in mind I watched him like a hawk. All these are, are incidents that make you believe based on what is a logical or illogical play-style that he hacks when every person plays differently.

[ForMaDawgS]

i do not map hack, i play for fun or to have fun, reason is i don't tower dive every time is, i would be called intentional feeder, or kicked for being a noob, as for waiting in forest for vision of pl, who knows i could have been on phone, or a friend was in the room and grabbed my attention. that click trinity has of my on 12:25 is a delayed click.

[EdgeOfChaos]

Much of his play does look suspicious, but as with the ban request for magiccookie, there's no evidence, just movements that can be explained.

I'm not really convinced he hacks

(edit) It all depends whether the fogclick is delayed or not.
(Edit2) Oh, it's legit. !support ban

[QTriNitY]

i do not map hack, i play for fun or to have fun, reason is i don't tower dive every time is, i would be called intentional feeder, or kicked for being a noob, as for waiting in forest for vision of pl, who knows i could have been on phone, or a friend was in the room and grabbed my attention. that click trinity has of my on 12:25 is a delayed click.

DRM showed a selection by you on PL. After removing the FOW, where's your Red selection circle on PL?

ForMaDawgS - You are my 3rd case of Safe click. Awaiting higher DotA mods' decision of my assessment on you.
I am confirming this Map Hack base on DRM.

12:25 <PUDGES> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Phantom Lancer], 0x0000C216000067D0

Scene - http://youtu.be/vqjk0ujDW1g

[ForMaDawgS]

i dont have safe click nor maphack so how is there a red circle