pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby ForMaDawgS » Mon May 27, 2013 8:14 pm

well its a good thing your not a mod isnt it. there was 0 fogclicks that game


i want to rephrase this there are no legit fogclicks
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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby iCoNNecT » Mon May 27, 2013 9:24 pm

QTriNitY wrote:
ForMaDawgS wrote:i do not map hack, i play for fun or to have fun, reason is i don't tower dive every time is, i would be called intentional feeder, or kicked for being a noob, as for waiting in forest for vision of pl, who knows i could have been on phone, or a friend was in the room and grabbed my attention. that click trinity has of my on 12:25 is a delayed click.

DRM showed a selection by you on PL. After removing the FOW, where's your Red selection circle on PL?

ForMaDawgS - You are my 3rd case of Safe click. Awaiting higher DotA mods' decision of my assessment on you.
I am confirming this Map Hack base on DRM.

12:25 <PUDGES> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Phantom Lancer], 0x0000C216000067D0

Scene - http://youtu.be/vqjk0ujDW1g


Yes what trinity listed is a safe click. My FCD detector didn't go off nor showed a red circle on PL. It should have shown a red circle on PL because its stated in the DRM. 12:25 <PUDGES> 0x19: Select subgroup: [Phantom Lancer], 0x0000C216000067D0. I will let Agreements do the final decision if this is a safe click, but clearly looks like it and Qtrinity is not trolling this either. I haven't banned him and I will let Agreements do the decision if this is a safe click and do the banning.

Heres another ban request where Q-trinity found the safe clicks and Agreements confirmed.
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=8776

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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby karasu. » Mon May 27, 2013 10:57 pm

Well forma in trinity's defense he resigned.

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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby coldfire786 » Tue May 28, 2013 12:58 am

i played alot with formadog and he is noob with other heros but i have seen godly pudge carrying team and he dives alot
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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby Palsgraf » Tue May 28, 2013 2:07 am

coldfire786 wrote:i played alot with formadog and he is noob with other heros but i have seen godly pudge carrying team and he dives alot

Yes the last game I played with him he went pudge and played suspiciously well. I ran the replay through my normal FCD and didn't see anything so I left it alone, but with this evidence here it explains a lot.

Personally, I do not think someone who has been caught map hacking in the past should be given the benefit of the doubt in situations like this. Of course, I would not want to ban an innocent player, but there is no way to 100% prove a map hacker absent a genuine fog click. Without fog clicks, we have to go on play style and unexplainable behavior (it's what we did with Bubbles, after all).

ForMaDawgS wrote:i do not map hack, i play for fun or to have fun, reason is i don't tower dive every time is, i would be called intentional feeder, or kicked for being a noob

And yet the ONE TIME you do dive PL happens to be there?

EDIT: Chantry is right (below). Pudge may be "thirsty" bc he's "fat", but you just came from fountain and had full HP and mana. There was no reason to empty your bottle before seeing the rune -- unless, of course, you somehow knew the rune was there without vision.
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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby QTriNitY » Tue May 28, 2013 2:52 am

There are 3 ways of gaining Rune Spawn information.
1. Pure MH vision.
2. Rune Notifier.
3. MH c/w Rune Notifier

For general information purpose.

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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby ForMaDawgS » Tue May 28, 2013 6:28 am

well tbh i had no idea rune was there and why shouldn't i be given the benefit of doubt, you guys were wrong about a fogclick calling me out blah blah, and i said it wasn't a legit fogclick and i get harassed over this... my pudge as isvery random and almost always reguardless if i had just been to fountain i always clear my bottle on way to rune. watch.
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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby QTriNitY » Tue May 28, 2013 6:31 am

lol. Using using 3 bottle charges at full mana and hp aint a random Pudge.
Ok, let Agreements decide. Good luck.

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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby ForMaDawgS » Tue May 28, 2013 6:34 am

[spoiler=Off-topic flame]qt are you mad you were fucking wrong on your so called safe click[/spoiler]
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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby QTriNitY » Tue May 28, 2013 7:18 am

I have yet to check on Agreements conclusion on that click.
Will load my own trials on different hacks to attempt similar replications.

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Re: pudges@uswest.battle.net aka Formadawgs

Postby CrowsZero » Tue May 28, 2013 8:09 am

Hey formadawgs. I never wanted any of this to happen but it is ultimately you who brought this amongst yourself. You know I want to believe you and your honesty but its really hard. If in the near future you should need life advice, give me a pm. Good luck in this trial because I do not wish any flame war upon you. Just know that I will always be watching over you like an angel. With this, I bid farewell to this situation and let the admins handle this. No hard feelings Forma!


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