[LTD] [ENT] Legion TD Mega buhhuu

[Crazy_Skeleton]

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 609206.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega #64
Your Warcraft III Username: AllMighty
Violator's Warcraft III Username: buhhuu
Violated Rule(s): did not send with team, solo send, tk + no listen
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): lvl 1 (no send), lvl 2 solo send, lvl 15 no send, did not push asked many times, built shit when asked to go blasters... and many more
Any further thoughts: this noob did not want to follow

[Im_Halp]

@crazy_skeleton can u provide timestamps where you and others(this is the important aspect) advised him to push and build blasters. It is important that it was not just you who told him to push or build since then it is simply difference of opinion. But if you and another team mate told him to push or go blasters then it is indeed refusal to cooperate. It would not be team kill.

[BoretkPanda]

@crazy_skeleton can u provide timestamps where you and others(this is the important aspect) advised him to push and build blasters. It is important that it was not just you who told him to push or build since then it is simply difference of opinion. But if you and another team mate told him to push or go blasters then it is indeed refusal to cooperate. It would not be team kill.

Got more and more the impression that u got an wierd+wrong meaning of teamkill

[Crazy_Skeleton]

@Im_halp not sending with team (2 times) and solo send on lvl 2 is not enough for u? STRANGE!

[Crazy_Skeleton]

(17:00 / Allied) Dude: red
17:01 / Allied) Dude: plz push
^^ Blue was asking for 90!!! secs
Blue was aking also later:20:26 / Allied) Dude: red
(20:28 / Allied) Dude: 7/6 asap
(20:28 / Allied) Dude: plz
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About blasters:
(24:37 / Allied) Dude: red go blaster too plz

[Keelay]

Recommendation to build blasters:

Spoiler!

(01:15 / Allied) Pattesutter: !lms buhhuu
(01:17 / Allied) AllMighty: send warriors plz
(01:20 / Allied) AllMighty: make alchemist red
(01:20 / Allied) Pattesutter: y
(01:21 / Allied) tolkien2: okay
(01:26 / Allied) tolkien2: sending now?
(01:31 / Allied) Pattesutter: no wtf is that build

While it can be recommended to build, it is not a requirement to listen to other players on how to build. Refusal to Cooperate doesn't mean building how your team demands. Its more than obvious that Red is a new player. Spamming him/her with "dont build that shit" and "Get out of mid" and confusing them with "Cross" "no?" "go solo" doesn't help much for learning.

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First solo send, looked like confusion more than anything else. ^

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It looked like the call to send had an impact on Green. ^^ 2nd attempt to tell red to build blasters, not the "shit" he was building. Not the best way to teach new players. While red didn't have the gold to build blasters, he did what he could and held lvl 3. He did push when told to at that point.
Purple !ff abuse at lvl 8 blaming loss on red.

Red did not build Blasters as team recommended, however he held the lvls and had the same value as Blue and teal (with 7/5) thru lvl 13.

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Failure to send lvl 15 ^^^

In conclusion: I would only ban red for failure to send lvl 15. Reasons stated above.

[Crazy_Skeleton]

1. 2 players asked him to make blasters what he did not follow. He made dead value instead.
2. "Its more than obvious that Red is a new player" Are you a wizzard @Keelay?
"32:20 / Allied) BuHHuu: i play 12 years w3"
3. "First solo send, looked like confusion more than anything else. ^ " HOW can u be confused?! HE DID NOT late send. After he did not send on lvl 1 he wrote:
(01:55 / Allied) BuHHuu: drink kofe sry
Afterwords he sent 1 warrior. ONE WARRIOR.
4. "It looked like the call to send had an impact on Green." Who cares about green who was not in our team, wtf u write about.
5. "Not the best way to teach new players.' HOW d fck it refers to my post?! NO IDEA. Useless opinion of urs what I can not care less.
6. 'Purple !ff abuse at lvl 8 blaming loss on red.' HOW can I abuse my ff option? I did not encaurage to follow it! It is to me ONLY whether i want to ff or not.
7. 'Red did not build Blasters as team recommended, however he held the lvls and had the same value as Blue and teal (with 7/5) thru lvl 13."
DUDE 300-500 value difference on lvl 15 is same for U? Go play tetris. AND WHO SPEAKS HERE ABOUT THE SIZE OF HIS VALUE IN THIS POST?!

All in all, WHY U WRITE SO MUCH BULLSHIT AT MY POST!
Plz keep spamming with such nosense the noobs of ur size in the future.

[Keelay]

Poor attitude is not the way to get your post through @Crazy_Skeleton.

WHY U WRITE SO MUCH BULLSHIT AT MY POST!

If you don't want people to write their opinions on your requests, then write a PM to ENT Staff.

4. "It looked like the call to send had an impact on Green." Who cares about green who was not in our team, wtf u write about.

Green is on other team. Sending is to make other team leak, green leaked.

"32:20 / Allied) BuHHuu: i play 12 years w3"

I saw this. Playing for 12 years wc3 is not playing LTD for 12 years. While one profile doesn't say much, an experienced player, even if TK, wouldnt build like that.

5. "Not the best way to teach new players.' HOW d fck it refers to my post?! NO IDEA. Useless opinion of urs what I can not care less.

All you did was flame with wtf and stop build that shit. That only irritates players, and if you want a good game, flame is not good.

Go play tetris. AND WHO SPEAKS HERE ABOUT THE SIZE OF HIS VALUE IN THIS POST?!

If you call someone for tk, yet they keep up with the team stats. . . hard to say fully tk.

(01:55 / Allied) BuHHuu: drink kofe sry

Can be considered afk; violation of rules.
Afterwords he sent 1 warrior. ONE WARRIOR. He sent 2, team followed on send 2, whether forced or not, team followed.

It is to me ONLY whether i want to ff or not.

!ff abuse can come from one or all players if there are no grounds to forfeit.

1. 2 players asked him to make blasters what he did not follow. He made dead value instead.

if it were dead value then he wouldn't have kept up with the team and would have leaked all lvls, yet did not. Not dead value. Dragon hawk is never dead value.

Updated Conclusion: Failure to send lvl 15 and afk 01:55 @thinu @Crazy_Skeleton @Jabba41

[Crazy_Skeleton]

If u play ltd (if u do, not much worth for team) play against me and make ur dragon hawks. He was pure tk and did not want to follow. His attitude was clear to every1 in our team and I am not going to spend more time reviewing the chat log. Do it urself finally.

If this play will not be considered as a tk i will play same as red just did. Solo send lvl 2 ( he did send 1 warrior on lvl 2, he added 2nd when I called to join his send), no send lvl 15, and I will enjoy I do not leak cause i have value. Dead value means to me u r not mid any lvl (vs send obviously) no metter how many shit towers u make. Rules must be equal to all.

'!ff abuse can come from one or all players if there are no grounds to forfeit.' ABUSE? I wrote why I did !ff. Cause red refused to push after getting 6/1 so tell me, what lvl I can kill?'

U gave ur stupid (it is not an offense, it is my opinion) opinion, now I wanna w8 an admin decission. if it will be negative I will wirte for 2nd opinion and if neceserry I will write further. This bullshit is getting less and less competentive.

[Jabba41]

buhhuu banned 2 days.