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[Jay-]

Replay Link:https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10575116
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #94
Your Warcraft III Username: Kali-
Violator's Warcraft III Username: hungry
Violated Rule(s): Purpose ruin, missed send on 17
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): all game if you got the time. if not.. just that miss send 17
Any further thoughts: he is the only reason we lost game. Why?
1failed aquas . no push . Refused to go leacker for a 15 send when it was obviously sure win . He kept upping aquas 10-17 when we needed him to full build aod when we were in a race 17. He is the worst possible noob.. thinking he's good, refusing to follow team and ignoring what 3 ppl tell him

[entername]

I did send for 17 I just couldn't DD .. and that was the failed send so please shut up .. If you wanted to leak then you should of been leaker I held my lane all the way to 17 don't tell people what to do when you won't follow what they tell you what to do ..

[Jay-]

You went for dd. ok man. Btw with 6 sec before i told u its not dd. You told us u have another 1600 ac an ur an experienced player. Why did you lie..? Was crystal clear there was not going to be a dd. My ban request is for all your game. We were ahead. We had very good chances to win. Why we lost?
1.you failed push with aquas.
2. you refused to go leack for 15 when 3 ppl told you to go !!!!
3. you upped aquas instead of full value aod.
4. you missed send on 17, like 1.8 k wood.. dont you think that's relevant?
take your pick.

[Leastjuh]

@Jay-

1 & 3 = Game play mistakes and are no offence to any rule. That is currently active on ENT. There is no rule that he needs to push a curtain amout of Lumberpush before a time. So you can't Say that is a purpose ruin. A Purpose ruin will be something like selling all his minions. What he didn't do. And a player is still free the choose there units even if you don't agree on it.

2 = This is something that is in the middle. Because some people can say that if 3 players in a team decide that you are going to do as team then its a team decision and the 4th player needs to follow that decision. But i can understand if 3 players tell you to leak on purpose you don't want to do it. So this is debatable and will not seen as Game ruining but more as "Refusing to cooperate by sending alone and not save-send with teammates to win." but some player can also see that as Selling value at any point in the game in order to gain an advantage by stalling time on a racing level is forbidden.. IN this case it wouldn't by selling but more like holding back gold. I hope you can see that this is dark area the judge about.

4 Keeping lumber while the team is sending is indeed a offence to rule but sometimes it can be a just a wrong guess in how much team they will need. Because he send some units he was just trying to get the DD which he couldn't.

This is my personal opinion about this report. if you don't agree with it lets discuss it like 2 grow-ups and don't start flaming.

[Jay-]

So.. the fact that missed send is not an end offence ? that mistake cost us the game. All his gameplay cost us the game. The fact that he went against the team breaks all the basic rules of ltd. It's a team game. Team decides. There is no room for solo calls especially from a player that is totally clueless about this game.
He deserves ban 10000% . If you were not in the game.. why you post? we all get it he's your friend but he broke the rules and he deserves ban.
By the way.. you are a mega player so all the tings ive told here might be confusing to you.. on 1200 things work a bit different.(not 1 single 1200 game in ur life and you actually come here and post about how things go.. who the fuck is this wannabe mod? why is he making random posts ? )

[Leastjuh]

@Jay- First of all i don't want be a mod. I am just here to help make ENT a more relaxing place & Enjoyable game and i played games before on the 1200+ bot.

I never said it was not offence like you see on this part of my previous post so for that he should be banned. And yes he should know that he wasn't able to get because you told him that.

Keeping lumber while the team is sending is indeed a offence to rule

Spoiler!

(35:26 / Allied) hungry: would i get dd?
(35:29 / Allied) Kali-: no

The only thing i wanted to say was that sometimes players make mistakes but some players can't just acknowledge that. Are you 100% sure you didn't make a mistake in the past game-wise? If you sure you didn't make any. Can i please worship you as my Mega God? I will personal build a statue for you.

And the other 3 points you said are debatable about and i happy to discuss this with you in grow-up way because you can see the rules conflicts in that? And its not that some is not as Good as you that you need to be harsh on them. Next time try to teach people. You even said it was his first 1200+ game so maybe he just needed some accompaniment from you and cross.or.not.

yes he made mistake in the sending part. But for the rest is just not in depth knowledge of how the game works. I my opinion that part should not be taken in consideration for the ban.

[Jay-]

Dont get why this wannabe acts like a mod here. Not even an 1200 player.. Mind your business . 1200 is more competitive and follows different rules.
This posts are for mods and ppl involved. When a guy clearly goes against his team cos he knows better that alone is enough for a ban and its called purpose ruin.
Missing the send is also ban material. That's why we got pubs and 1200. Cos in pub may be acceptable to act like an ass and play ur own little solo game but in 1200 its all about team calls.
Leastjuh stop posting on things you clearly do not know . You are clueless buddy. Let him get his punishment or whatever and get it done already .

[Ben_T]

Jay-, Leastjuh is completely correct in this situation and he has every right to be posting his opinion on the matter. I personally thought he reviewed the game well and outlined the rules well enough to make this a very easy ban request to deal with. Also Jay-, remember that all moderators were once a "wannabe mod."
hungry banned 2 days.