Not taking advice, plus refusing to upgrade lumber is not a reason for a ban @ZaM

[dragonk926]

Your Warcraft III username: dragonk9926
Realm/Gateway:
Why are you banned: Teamkill, trolling throughout the game
Why you should be unbanned: 1. I clearly did not teamkill. 2. I clearly did not troll

Reference: https://entgaming.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=126582

@ZaM, I will I will make it easy for you with reasons why I should not be banned one by one with numbers. It may get long, but with your responsibilities as a staff, you are obligated to read this anyways.
Teamkill
1. Although not entirely efficient, I built what I could to not leak, likewise you commented "he does nothing wrong in building the units he wants as he doesn't really leak much".
2. At level 14, I sent whelps because obviously, as you commented, "he doesn't push like his teammates told him to". First of all, not sending as a team is totally ban-able, but I sent as a team with around the 300 lumbers I had. Moreover, I sent with the team for other levels, and upped the King when the team upped the King. Why only look at level 14 when I could not send as much as team could?

Now, lets delve into this part, "he doesn't push like his teammates told him to". I have my own right to push, and not pushing is not a teamkill obviously. I can build whatever units I want to build and push whatever amounts I want to, as long as I do not leak to the extent it kills the game.

The way this game works is if someone makes an opinion of sending, or upping the king or any other means of team effort, other people agree or disagree to that opinion, and of course, choosing individually what units to build and deciding how much to push does not go under the category of team effort, thus they do not fall under the category of non-cooperation. As you said, if "refusing to upgrade lumber to piss his teammates off" works, can I get pissed off for someone pushing too much to make my upgrade look relatively small? I purely decided going 3/6 would not affect our chance of winning, so I chose to do so and you cannot do anything about it. If you seriously think there should not be freedom in choice of units and push, you should seriously consider living in totalitarian nations like North Korea.

Trolling
1. The definition of 'trolling' means you do something in game to harm the gameplay of other teammates which would eventually culminate to the loss of the game overall. If you go by that definition, I did not troll, just made the ban requester angry just like he did to me at the start of the game where I did not even start to talk. Just like the ban requester edited the chats to his advantage, let me edit the chats of how he "provoked" me:
(00:41 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: reroll purple
(00:46 / Allied) Wanyy: -zoom 150
(00:46 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: young frost dragon is shit
(00:51 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: -rolls
(00:55 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: purple
(00:55 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: come on
(00:55 / Allied) carameljunkie: ?
(00:55 / Allied) Will_of_D: blu you know how to cross
(00:55 / Allied) dragonk9926: ?
(00:55 / Allied) dragonk9926: whats going on
(00:55 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: purple rr pls

(01:19 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: young frost dragon is real shit man
(01:26 / Allied) dragonk9926: explain
(01:31 / Allied) Will_of_D: purp frost is ass
(01:33 / Allied) dragonk9926: so that i get ur logic

(03:39 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: -rolls
(03:41 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: ..
(03:46 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: such a much better roll
(03:49 / Allied) Will_of_D: no leak at all
(03:50 / Allied) Jp3: send?
(03:51 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: and you didnt want

(04:41 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: wind rider instead of aqua
(04:42 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: hahaha
(04:44 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: opurple
(04:45 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: ahahahaha
(04:49 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(04:49 / Allied) Will_of_D: you seem, like a stupid ass
(05:14 / Allied) dragonk9926: piece of shit
(05:21 / Allied) dragonk9926: do u need attention or something
(05:25 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: hahahahaha
(05:29 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: hahahahahahahahaha gg purple
(05:37 / Allied) dragonk9926: you really do have talent
(05:46 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: you have no brain my man

(06:25 / Allied) carameljunkie: can you guys aplogize to purple so we can win
(06:37 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: raider
(06:38 / Allied) carameljunkie: k
(06:40 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: kkkkkkkkk

(12:46 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: and now purple doesnt make any wisp or lumber
(12:47 / Allied) carameljunkie: btw
(12:49 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: do it or Ireport

@ZaM, Please try to change your biased mind and catch the instances of flaming and threatening through these chats. The main point is, I did not start this whole mess, did not want the game to be like this, and did not want to hear continuous patronizing, pushy orders from a teammate after I explicitly exhibited my dissent multiple times nicely.

2. The ban requester claims "we only won because enemy team was noob"; if you feel there are no problems in this rather condescending sentence, you have big problems too. Who is he to decide someone is noob or not? I did what I could under my talent to build units and push in order to win, and we won the game rather comfortably. Thus, you have no right nor logical reasons to punish me for not using my full ability.

Indeed, I did act like I was a total noob, and it was purely because they treated me like a noob from the very first minute of the game, so if you empathize with the ban requester, please try to empathize with my feelings for being pushed around like a tide pod inside the laundry machine.


Conclusion
If you want to be a proper administrator, try not to be biased and illogical, as your insensitive actions would make the whole experience of this fun game into a horrible one.

I would have totally accepted this ban if you banned me according to my aggressive words, but for other reasons like "the annoying part is how he acts like a noob just to provoke his teammates" as you said, it is totally unacceptable. Please do not write opinionated diction like "annoying" since you as a staff need to stay neutral and make decisions according to the laws made here. Try imagine a judge saying diction like "annoying" in the court to the juries and the suspect - you will decorate the headline of tomorrow's Fox News.

This got unnecessarily longer than I expected due to rhetorical repetition, but I tried my best to make it as short as possible so that the person of your intellect can understand this. And yes, this is what you actually call 'provoking', and I hope you now get the proper meaning of the word, @ZaM. Since I did use aggressive words, I do not expect the ban to get lifted, but at least try to think once more when you process ban in the future. I am more than willing to reply to your reply, so please do so.

[Zeratul]

After reading this entire wall of text, this pretty much sums it all:

I have my own right to push, and not pushing is not a teamkill obviously. I can build whatever units I want to build and push whatever amounts I want to, as long as I do not leak to the extent it kills the game.

I purely decided going 3/6 would not affect our chance of winning, so I chose to do so and you cannot do anything about it.

The moment you say that you decided that going 3/6 is okay, cause it doens't affect your team chances of winning .. there's nothing else to say or add at all: #TeamKillerOf2018

[fxn]

So let's get it straight from the start. Red and I told you frost dragon is bad, you started to insult after Itold you your free roll was much better (Aqua>>>frost dragon any sane ltd player would agree)

(03:39 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: -rolls
(03:41 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: ..
(03:46 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: such a much better roll

(04:05 / Allied) dragonk9926: do you want to start this
(04:08 / Allied) dragonk9926: you piece of fuck
(04:11 / Allied) dragonk9926: say one more word

(04:41 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: wind rider instead of aqua
(04:42 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: hahaha
(04:44 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: opurple
(04:45 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: ahahahaha
(04:49 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(04:49 / Allied) Will_of_D: you seem, like a stupid ass
(05:14 / Allied) dragonk9926: piece of shit
(05:21 / Allied) dragonk9926: do u need attention or something

Look at your flaming response, I literally told you aqua is better. You then started to make raider and troll back by saying look at how good the wolf looks etc

(07:09 / Allied) dragonk9926: look how
(07:10 / Allied) dragonk9926: cute it is
(07:13 / Allied) Will_of_D: idgaf if pourp flames
(07:18 / Allied) dragonk9926: look how big is blood wolf

You then stayed 2/0 until 9, built a bunch of useless raiders then made 4 tot starting lv 8. then you proceed from 2/1 to 3/6 lv 9-14

Next you massed a bunch of whelps on 14 even though you know what gargoyle is
(26:36 / Allied) dragonk9926: so something similar to gargoyle

I did what I could under my talent to build units and push in order to win

You have 300 games played, according to ZaM, and you tell me all you can do is stay 2/0 from lvl 2 to lvl 8, then go 3/6 from 10 to 14 is all your might. I can look in your game history and find a dozen of games where you don't push the same way, care to explain?

So tell me, which part of these are not trolling and tk?

The moderator banned you for intentionally tk and trolling, which is fair and square. You should take this time to rethink your behaviours and actions on how to work with team. Else a game ruiner like you will run loose after the ban expires, provided that you do not dodge.

[Quetra]

The way this game works is if someone makes an opinion of sending, or upping the king or any other means of team effort, other people agree or disagree to that opinion, and of course, choosing individually what units to build and deciding how much to push does not go under the category of team effort, thus they do not fall under the category of non-cooperation

Refusing to cooperate isn't tied to those things in the rules. You are not the one who decides what is refusing to cooperate and what is not. That is the moderator's decision on a case to case basis.

(01:08 / Allied) dragonk9926: you want me to reroll?
(01:09 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: purple
(01:10 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: yes
(01:11 / Allied) dragonk9926: nah fuck off

His req was reasonable and your response was not.

(04:05 / Allied) dragonk9926: do you want to start this
(04:08 / Allied) dragonk9926: you piece of fuck
(04:11 / Allied) dragonk9926: say one more word
(04:11 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: lol
(04:13 / Allied) dragonk9926: and you'll lose the game

(12:56 / Allied) dragonk9926: being a noob is not reportable
(13:01 / All) shpee: WARNING: Invalid action packet detected (id=0x70, username=Jp3).
(13:01 / Allied) dragonk9926: what you are doing is reportable
(13:07 / Allied) Will_of_D: purp
(13:08 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: but trolling and intentional tk is
(13:12 / Allied) Will_of_D: wisp and lumber please
(13:17 / Allied) dragonk9926: am i intentionally tking?
(13:18 / Allied) dragonk9926: teach me
(13:19 / Allied) Will_of_D: strop trollin we all want to win
(13:20 / Allied) Wanyy: -value
(13:20 / Allied) dragonk9926: how to play

Chat makes it clear your intentions. Playing badly on purpose is TK, you are not a noob and were simply trolling.

1. The definition of 'trolling' means you do something in game to harm the gameplay of other teammates which would eventually culminate to the loss of the game overall. If you go by that definition, I did not troll, just made the ban requester angry just like he did to me at the start of the game where I did not even start to talk. Just like the ban requester edited the chats to his advantage, let me edit the chats of how he "provoked" me:

Doesn't matter if he provoked you. You chose to broke the rules and he did not. We don't make exceptions just because someone made you angry.

I agree with Zams review. This appeal is unlikely to proceed if you do not accept blame.

[dragonk926]

Let me get this straight to you @fxn. Please reconsider the definition of "Game Ruiner" or something similar, like game whatever only applies when you eventually lose a game due to that person's actions. As I stated above, and again reiterated by @Zeratul, I knew what I was doing is not tk (is it teamkill? I am not familiar with the term) since I clearly knew my combination of units and push of lumber would not make us lose. To sum up, not listening to your 'opinion' isn't same as being a "Game Ruiner"; I was a game ruiner only to you, since you were just frustrated that other person disagree to your opinion, just like a baby who always believes what you think is always right.

Let's go back to the initial problem. Yes, you and Red suggested that Young Frost Dragon was better and I clearly disagreed to that multiple times, and you kept on provoking me by going back to my build problem, unnecessarily making comments after I re-rolled. Care to explain? As I stated on the original post, I can build whatever units and push I want to as long as it does not affect the game result; I just did not agree to your opinion and that's it.

"I did what I could under my talent to build units and push in order to win"

does not mean I used all my might to win the game. Adding to that sentence, I said,

"I did what I could under my talent to build units and push in order to win, and we won the game rather comfortably. Thus, you have no right nor logical reasons to punish me for not using my full ability."

It just sucks to reply to someone who does not comprehend the implication inside the sentences.

Next, the gargoyle problem. If I remember correctly, I did not have enough lumber to send a gargoyle, so I sent whelps. Please stop editing chats to your advantage since it just looks stupid:

(26:29 / Allied) dragonk9926: no lamber
(26:34 / Allied) Wanyy: 1 ghoul
(26:36 / Allied) dragonk9926: so something similar to gargoyle

Next, "saying look at how good the wolf looks etc" is not trolling. Do I even need to explain this to you?

I kinda want that you yourself should "rethink your behaviours and actions on how to work with team", but looking at your first sentence of the reply,

"Red and I told you frost dragon is bad, you started to insult after Itold you your free roll was much better (Aqua>>>frost dragon any sane ltd player would agree)"

, you just are hopeless.

(04:41 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: wind rider instead of aqua
(04:42 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: hahaha
(04:44 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: opurple
(04:45 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: ahahahaha
(04:49 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
(04:49 / Allied) Will_of_D: you seem, like a stupid ass
(05:14 / Allied) dragonk9926: piece of shit
(05:21 / Allied) dragonk9926: do u need attention or something
(05:25 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: hahahahaha
(05:29 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: hahahahahahahahaha gg purple
(05:37 / Allied) dragonk9926: you really do have talent
(05:46 / Allied) ShakuganNoShana: you have no brain my man
(05:48 / Allied) dragonk9926: of
(05:49 / Allied) carameljunkie: !ff
(05:49 / All) shpee: [carameljunkie] has voted to forfeit.
(05:49 / All) shpee: 1/4 players on the Sentinel/West have voted to forfeit (3/4 needed to pass).
(05:56 / Allied) dragonk9926: making people fucking angry
(05:59 / Allied) Faydra317: send lvl 7?
(06:03 / Allied) dragonk9926: does it make you happy
(06:05 / Allied) shpee: will see
(06:06 / Allied) dragonk9926: then its kinda sad

Do you seriously think this is the right way of telling someone's free roll was much better? Besides the unasked unnecessary comments you made, please reconsider how immature you are.

Long story short, please just get this concept straight: Disagreeing to a opinion is not tking, nor trolling.

As I said in the conclusion of the original post, I did use swearings and aggressive words, so I should get banned according to the swearings and aggressive words I have used, but then you are not free from the likewise flaming.

[Quetra]

Let me get this straight to you @fxn. Please reconsider the definition of "Game Ruiner" or something similar, like game whatever only applies when you eventually lose a game due to that person's actions.

Purposefully being a detriment is game ruining whether you lost the game or not... this argument is nonsensical.

Given it's clear you will not accept responsibility, appeal denied.