TimmyTheTauren wrote:My main point: The maphack ban should not have processed before it was reviewed by another mod. Has any admin actually confirmed Av1oN's maphack ban?
Coco would never have been banned for dodging if proper protocol was used in the first place. I can agree with going ahead and banning before approval if there was a fogclick, but all of the evidence given was circumstantial. A player should not be banned for such a length of time unless there is 100% proof of maphack.
Why is coco still being banned when the original ban request is still in Awaiting Confirmation?
As HazarDous said, it is indeed a safeguard. To be more specific - The ban is to be enforced immediately, the confirmation part is what comes after to both check for dodge/confirm said maphack case. If such user is however
dodging during the confirmation phase, they are processed and to be enforced accordingly for such.
I'm not sure how you're familiar with our protocol given you're not moderator, I'm actually almost certain that you know nothing of it. While I know you're rather upset to see what I'm assuming is a "friend" of yours or a person-of-interest fall to these ban lengths, you should tread more carefully in your wording when trying to defend them.
TimmyTheTauren wrote:It is also important to note the English bit in his ban appeal was not written by coco, but an inclusion by ParkMinYoung. Who, by the way, I thank for taking the time to attempt the translation and help coco write his ban appeal. As such, coco was not aware his appeal said he would not continue to play until it was resolved.
The appeal(s) that were done were for the most part done by others, with the exception to the last one being done by coco himself (with assistance) however if you're to tell me it wasn't him appealing in english - The ban appeal was voided from that point on. Important to note here -
Forum Rules wrote:All posts on this forum must be in English (other languages can be used in private messages).
Following that, we don't allow others to appeal on behalf of another person. The appeal only stood as long as it did due to the continuous "outrage" over said ban. However, according to yes, our protocol, the ban appeal should've been denied and yet we kept it open up until more dodging came to light.
Now to move on with your later response(s) -
TimmyTheTauren wrote:My best guess is that coco continued to play as he expected he cleared his name to keep playing. He might also think that there is no reason for him not to play as the offense he was banned for he knows he did not commit.
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By doing this he did not show "he is above the system and can do whatever he wants" but just that he wanted to play the game that he has been playing frequently for quite some time. Just a normal day for coco.
I'm sorry but I have to say that this is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Coco for the most part played under 2 accounts (both 100+) so using "aliases/smurfs" wasn't actually a commonality for him and suddenly when he's unable to join - He not only
ignored the ban message right infront of him, but also
changed his IP address and
made an entirely new smurf to continue playing on ENT.
(Note: If he couldn't understand the message, he could've easily asked for help since he plays on USEast battle.net, used google translate, make any attempt like everyone else whom doesn't dodge and make an effort to try and figure out why suddenly his main account and his secondary were both banned.)How are you to tell me that he's unaware of his actions? I wasn't aware you are coco or conveniently know what's going through his mind? What you describe in these messages are most likely what goes through a dodgers mind when they first see they are banned. To play again, and he did every step necessary to assure that and it goes directly against ENT's rules and guidelines and is considered the highest offense that can be done by an individual.
TimmyTheTauren wrote:Please stop taking advantage of a player who cannot effectively defend himself. He didn't do anything wrong in the first place and now the staff is using his non-malicious dodging to solidify a ban that shouldn't go through in the first place.
He's every right to make an effort and defend for himself. We even have korean staff members he could reach out to with extended assistance and translation if needed. How can the staff take advantage of someone who blatantly goes against our entire rule system and commits the capital offense of ENT? If anything we've made extended amounts of efforts and even went out of our way to try and hear out coco and his side of the story but honestly that's looking more and more pointless given
he's still dodging as of hours ago. We can't help those who don't want to be helped.
Again, the amount of suppot he has by the community is noticeable but it's both unnecessary and creating complications now. This entire complaint is based off someone other than yourself and none of the reasons you've mentioned are even close to being valid enough to warrant any ban reduction with the most notable one being
he's dodging rather than coming to comment here and "Defend himself".To make it simple - He's dodged, he's defied our rules. If someone can commit that hard to wanting to ignore our rules and deem whether or not he wants to banned is simply wrong. His maphack review will be commented on as HazarDous mentioned but that still remains as the bigger issue here. Again, I understand you're upset over losing a "friend" but that's no reason to come here and blatantly say moderators don't follow our own protocol and are "abusing" players because that simply isn't true.
Also to note - I've spoken with
@Kappa and he's informed me (also because he's still on 1.28) that he will get around to reviewing the maphack sometime tomorrow when he is available.
