[LTD] hmander@@europe.battle.net

[Augustinus]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10732253 and https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=10732290
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega #49 and [ENT] Legion TD Mega #57
Your Warcraft III Username: MasterOfThePit@useast.battle.net
Violator's Warcraft III Username: hmander@@europe.battle.net
Violated Rule(s): game 49: solo upping at lvl 10, refusing to send with the team
game 57: AS abuse to get more kills by preventing greens units to go mid. especially on minute 8. He was also hiding his units with AS previously
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): game 57: minute 8, game 49 lvl 10
Any further thoughts:
Before any backseat moderators step in again about the flawed behaviour of other players, I would like you to discriminate at least between teamkilling and game destruction and other offenses that do not contribute to the teams misery.

[bezdak]

[ENT] Legion TD Mega #49
1453: hmander@ starts upping without a word. Did 10 ups and refused to send with the rest of the team. One instance of not so impactful refusing to cooperate.

[ENT] Legion TD Mega #57
0235: hmander@ casted AS on his units in middle to steal kills. IIRC this is not against the rules.
0340: ZinGir initiated an abusive votekick against pink for that.
0410: ZinGir keeps antistucking pink's units to prevent him going mid.
(04:59 / All) ZinGir: now he wont get to go mid anymore
Even though they could've seen pink's units already, still this is a bit of ghosting:
(05:28 / All) ZinGir: you know damn well he has clockworks
0555: hmander@ tries to VK green for AS abuse which he clearly showed he intents to continue with in all chat. Nobody votes !yes.
0620: Another green's AS abuse.
During lvl 4: Both green and pink abused AS on each other to prevent units from going mid. hmander@ sends without a word, after which green ghosts again. Oj joins in sending.
(08:08 / All) ZinGir: and now pinks solo sending
The AS abuse continues from both players during 5. During 7 pink sends a BO without a word, team joins. There was no team communication whatsoever about the sending the whole game though, hard to clasify this as refusing to cooperate.

ZinGir should be banned for repeated AS abuse and minor ghosting + VK abuse.
hmander@ should be banned for repeated AS abuse and minor refusing to cooperate.

[epicdeath]

Bezmod he wanna be bestmod again

[Augustinus]

Thanks for your response, but I would like to put the players behaviour into perspective. I know that AS on mid is generally not forbidden, however in many cases it damages the team by distributing the leak gold to the teams disadvantage. It was clearly not pinks intention to AS on mid to help the team by reinforcing the holder - he just wanted to more kills to look good.I agree that the vk attempts was maybe not justified, but I would hold in greens favor that pinks attitude was already surfacing at this point.
Also regarding ghosting: It is forbidden in the rules for certain reasons, but again I would like you to discriminate on cases. Here green tried to offer proof of pinks behaviour to justify a possible vk to us. And in addition, ghosting about the solo send didn't give any advantage to us.

Keep in mind that green is the victim in this game. He and orange and yellow were suffering from pinks actions which is definitly contributed the most to their loss.

[HodoR_]

Leaks that go Mid have reduced bounty. AS to catch them before they do is in most cases, preferable, unless you want to race and even then you can AS a few to delay even more. Mega speaking of course, AS is 100% allowed to catch leaks.

[ZinGir]

Rawr, all the mods know i take matters into my own hands, i think i also said ingame, go ahed report me too i know i abused.

Anyway, he unstucked mid. he wanted to be hated and he got what he wanted.
Thanks for backing me up Augustinus, Hmander does this frequent him self. not enough people report him for it. im sure if any of the mods digs into his history you can see he abuses AS and other things EVERY game.

Also bezdak, your a biased friend of hmander you shoulda stayed out of this.

Votekick abuse when someone unstuck abuses, your bit wrong here eh? geuss thats why you aint a mod no more.

[Jabba41]

Zingit + hmander@ banned 3 days each.