need to ban Slipperyslark from DIHL for abuse

Necromancer22 · Postby **Necromancer22** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 5:13 pm

Vaylen wrote:This is ridiculous. Slippery is one of the best captains on dota, great player, great attitude, and I always have a fun game when im on his team iN DIHL. I've never seen him abuse before.

The one time he left was a honest mistake. I've never seen him abuse kick in dozens of games, as far as witchcraft goes he has never purposely game ruined, he is just trying to learn and get better. Since he was un-vouched there have been no games with him unless were waiting awhile for last person and need to have someone join.

Disagree with whoever posted this. Slippery is one of the great players we have left and always has a good attitude. Should be a warning this time if true

"left because of honest mistake does not validate not sitting out the next game according to dihl rules, so I am not sure what you are trying to argue with that statement.

aimskjs · Postby **aimskjs** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:11 pm

1B_Fantom wrote:Lmao, nice try.... Except 4/10 players in this game arent even in our clan. It was a joke, and genghis and born-sinner both played it too. If we had no life we could go through all the games too and I'm sure find "violations" you've done, but clearly you can tell with any research this wasnt a clan only game or whatever you want to call it.

Mmm im sorry fantorm i misunderstood this situation. I heard geng and born was kicked in lobby not in channel. I had some miscommunication with other. I carefully read the lobby chat, and I confirm that you didnt kick them from lobby for ur own clan. I apologize. I was not even there

Necromancer22 · Postby **Necromancer22** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:12 pm

1B_Fantom wrote:I can't speak on the situation with aimsjks, but for the game where saint got kicked I was waiting for the game as well...... The problem is we all used to wait in same channel together but now they made their own, so vouch priority and waiting times are all hearsay. Fact of the matter is I got into the DIHL game way before saint did, and had already been picked by a team. Saint should have hosted or had someone who can make it for him to sit in the lobby but he didnt, so theres no reason he would have gotten in before me. Teams were already picked by time he joined.

Only reason I left was because one of the winners hadn't come yet and I was asking him if he wanted in, but he had afk'ed.

So if Saint tells you that he has been waiting 30-40 min for game, that means that he has been waiting just the same as you if not longer, and you do not give him even the chance to roll you and other people who waited for a spot in the game? Saying that saint should have hosted has little weight considering he still joined the game before it started and told you that he had been waiting for 30-40 minutes.

aimskjs · Postby **aimskjs** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:22 pm

Your game was second ih game of the day. Saint joined our first ih game and asked us to let him play next

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look how long xsaintx had been waiting. Ive told slark let xsaintx play but he ignored

xSAINTx]: what is this?
[xSAINTx]: lmfao
[attytewd]: isnt there
[attytewd]: a 2nd game
[Born-Sinner]: saint should play
[attytewd]: so many onlinne
[xSAINTx]: why is slark abusing
[Marcass]: saint waited last game
[xSAINTx]: host power
[Born-Sinner]: ill try to host but doubt it
[xSAINTx]: kicking aims, and not letting me play
[SlipperySLark]: !open 11
[System]: *** player [xSAINTx] has left the game (was kicked when opening a slot)
[Marcass]: ?
[Born-Sinner]: told u fantom
[SlipperySLark]: can we get started?
[1B.Fantom]: if saint is gonna cry
[Cube]: !roll
[System]: Random result: 5 (from 0 to 5).
[1B.Fantom]: he can have my spot
[Marcass]: i think saint waited last game slark
[Born-Sinner]: um
[SupNub]: born
[Cube]: roll slark
[Born-Sinner]: anyways good luck
[System]: *** player [xSAINTx] has joined the game
[System]: [xSAINTx@useast] (ELO: -5.00). W/L: 31/34. Hero K/D/A: 486/450/706 (7.48/6.92/10.86). Creep K/D/N: 7238/652/1900 (111.35/10.03/29.23). T/R/C: 45/19/0.
[SupNub]: u playing?
[SlipperySLark]: we all waited
[xSAINTx]: k bro
[Born-Sinner]: imma sit
[Born-Sinner]: i lost
[SupNub]: why kick saint
[xSAINTx]: im reporting u
[Born-Sinner]: sup if u not playing
[xSAINTx]: forreal
[xSAINTx]: ur a serious cunt
[SlipperySLark]: !open 11
[System]: *** player [xSAINTx] has left the game (was kicked when opening a slot)
[Born-Sinner]: give saint ur spot
[System]: *** player [Born-Sinner] has left the game (has left the game voluntarily)
[SupNub]: i am
[System]: *** player [xSAINTx] has joined the game
[1B.Fantom]: ok
[System]: [xSAINTx@useast] (ELO: -5.00). W/L: 31/34. Hero K/D/A: 486/450/706 (7.48/6.92/10.86). Creep K/D/N: 7238/652/1900 (111.35/10.03/29.23). T/R/C: 45/19/0.
[1B.Fantom]: captain up
[SupNub]: wow
[SupNub]: stop kicking him
[SlipperySLark]: !ban xsaintx
[System]: Player [xSAINTx] was banned by player [SlipperySLark] on server [useast.battle.net].
[SlipperySLark]: !open 12
[System]: *** player [xSAINTx] has left the game (was kicked when opening a slot)
[SlipperySLark]: !close 11
[SlipperySLark]: !close 12
[SlipperySLark]: lets go
[Cube]: i rolled a 5
[SlipperySLark]: !roll
[System]: Random result: 5 (from 0 to 5).

aimskjs · Postby **aimskjs** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:31 pm

Spoiler!

this chat is funny. looks like slark is revenging to us

Postby **HolyBear** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:49 pm

SlipperySlark shouldn't have kicked players, believe he violated the rules.

Secondly, you can't wait in channel lobby for a game.. From what I got, the first 5 people to join game lobby have priority to play next game along with winners. If there are less than 5 players waiting in game lobby, losers from last game get a chance to !roll to get into match. If there are 10 players, they can start new game, but if there are 6-9 players waiting in game lobby, last people that join game lobby can't get into match and must wait for next game.

The biggest problem here was that no game lobby was up due to players not knowing how to host next DIHL game, so they could wait in game lobby which caused so much confused with players saying "I also waited for next game".

aimskjs · Postby **aimskjs** » Mon Jun 11, 2018 8:26 pm

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well, all we gotta do that is ban slark from owner not to give a chance to him to abuse. This is not first time he has done this.

Godplayeed · Postby **Godplayeed** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:34 am

Slipperyslark tried to ban me, when he left the game because he dont liked the picks from capt...
One day later i saw how him was abusing power kicking people and letting play only he want...
We tried to give him too many chance and he still doing the same things

aimskjs · Postby **aimskjs** » Tue Jun 12, 2018 2:51 pm

Please just close this thread. I think slark and i finished aregument on whatsapp. He apologized. Just warn him not to do with owner power.
He misunderstood the situation for #1 case

Postby **raizoir** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 12:08 am

@aimskjs @slipperyslark

Glad you both sorted it out between you and can move on , however there is still a clear abuse of 'owner' by slipperyslark

The Game Owner may not kick, ban, or mute a player. If you feel like a Game Owner is abusing his powers, please report that to a DIHL Mod and that particular player may lose rights to host games and could be subject to removal from the league.

Additionally you disconnected and therefore should have sat out of the next game.

As this is the second offense @slipperyslark not to be 'owner' for next 14 days (ending on 27/06/18). You can still host but you must immediately transfer !owner to another experienced vouched player upon joining the game

We are changing the way dihl games are hosted within the next week to avoid this situation again - an update will be posted shortly.

Brando · Postby **Brando** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 6:27 am

When will SlipperySlarks reign of abuse and torture end???? Power hungry on a 15 year old game :thinking: :V

Brando · Postby **Brando** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:38 am

" Postby aRt)Y » Sat Dec 16, 2017 1:25 pm

@slipperyslark While certain bans are always subjective and can be argued both ways, kicking users is almost never a solution or necessity. It was clearly abusive and entirely out of line with ENT's policy.

Therefore, you now receive a final warning. If we receive new reports of abusive behavior, the Staff Dept. reserves the right to relieve you of your DIHL duties and ban you from hosting DIHL games. "

CLEARLY SlipperySlark did NOT learn his lesson the first time . (BTW the HEAD of ENT before he retired a month ago SAID this...NOT any forum moderator but the SUPER ADMIN said this about slipperyslark AND warned him. KEEP IN MIND THE OTHER COMPLAINT THREAD ABOUT SLIPPERYSLARK WAS ONLY MONTHS AGO!! NOT YEARS BUT MONTHS!!! How is not being allowed to host for 2 weeks a fair punishment? 2 weeks go by, maybe a month, maybe 2, and hes back at it AGAIN abusing. The only way I see it is you NEVER allow him in any position of power and you DONT go to "his" dota channel BECAUSE this is what fuels him. He cannot be changed, he will always be power hungry, and when the power isn't there he will go running into public matches on a 15 year old game and yell and anyone who wont place wards or listen to him when hes feeding. ITS A SHAME this man is still allowed to play on DIHL SERVERS!!!

Dhamma · Postby **Dhamma** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 4:22 pm

aRt)y wrote:Therefore, you now receive a final warning. If we receive new reports of abusive behavior, the Staff Dept. reserves the right to relieve you of your DIHL duties and ban you from hosting DIHL games.

Clearly this player has continued to abuse his power as a host of DIHL.

This decision doesn't belong to me, but it seems like he should be banned from hosting altogether. I doubt he will change is attitude in two weeks time.

In either event, for the record, this is strike #2.

Astros · Postby **Astros** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 8:08 pm

Slippery is one of the most active members of DIHL and while I do think there are instances of abuse, he's still one of the most experienced and capable players to manage DIHL games. There is no doubt that there is tension among these players for various reasons and I think that played more into this than anything else. I do think Slippery should have come on here to explain his side of what had happened because I'm positive he has heard that others have reported him for abuse on the forums. Nonetheless, if I were in the position to determine the result of this, I would give him an absolute final warning with no exceptions. Slippery has been very active and instrumental in reviving DIHL games so he does deserve a lot of credit for that as well.

DOTA_TRASHCANS · Postby **DOTA_TRASHCANS** » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:30 pm

Going to add my OBJECTIVE 2 cents here, if there is irrefutable evidence for breaking the rule, which it looks like it has, make a decision on the consequence and discuss with the offender. Maybe it's just me, but this seems to be an easily solvable case.

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