Cleaning house in dota

[EdgeOfChaos]

Goodbye B.E.A.S.T: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=131768
Goodbye Mexican Wisp: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=132393
(And G.O.D is already gone too!)
hope they hit the dota AI map and practice up in this coming 365 days

Two of the most notorious game ruiners in dota, gone just like that.

Who's next?

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Also this is one of the best responses ever.

Any further thoughts: Guess all your ip ban system is just trash cuz it doesnt work and none give a shit about it

No point in looking at this then.
Denied.

g o t t e m g o o d
sauce: viewtopic.php?f=24&t=133103

[kunkka]

Now they can officially join Vaylen and King.Kar in OHS DIHL gege ENT

1. King.Kar: The smurfers of smurfs, King.Kar has been around for decades, you'll never know which account he will be on but he is willing to give DIHL a go.
https://anhmaidoicho17.wixsite.com/play ... x/king-kar

3. Vaylen: Being exiled from ENT servers at the same time as the mighty SlipperySlark, Vaylen is a LINA specialist and is currently work his way up OHS rankings to reach TOP 100
https://anhmaidoicho17.wixsite.com/play ... dex/vaylen

[1B_Fantom]

Pretty fucking hilarious that Vaylen, for all his annoying and petty acts tried to do all this same shit before he got banned. He literally posted about these people b.e.a.s.t and mexican_wisp and got laughed at by Falenga, saying

I've personally played with all the people in your list, both on my mod acc and smurfs ( so the argument they were playing their best in order to avoid getting banned is invalid ), and their gameplay was similar in both situations.

Yet Falenga plays a game with Mexican_wisp on his team and NOW feels the need to ban him.... Just funny the hypocrisy and steps people go to ignore the reality of situations at ENT. Yes, if you are under 500 ELO you are more than likely a thrower/troll/not worthy of playing the game. View a few of their games and you'd realize how much damage they are doing, PLUS the numerous lobbies that are delayed because no one wants to play in a game like that.

[EdgeOfChaos]

@brando you need to update your GREATEST arem team of all time

1: B.E.A.S.T
2: Mexican_Wisp
3: King.kar
4: Vaylen
5: SlipperySlark

new ohs AREM MONSTERS
maybe not2000elo as a reserve in case king.kar gets called in to papa john's?

I've personally played with all the people in your list, both on my mod acc and smurfs ( so the argument they were playing their best in order to avoid getting banned is invalid ), and their gameplay was similar in both situations.

hmm :thonking:
#VaylenDidNothingWrong
#FreeVaylen2018

[1B_Fantom]

Lol you and I both know I wasn't saying that at all. I'm just saying, he had some valid points he was raising about the people that throw games and ruin shit, and I honestly think he just got so disillusioned by it all he figured fuck it. Either way, even though he was not the most credible of messengers doesnt mean they should ignore the clear evidence that those people were ruining games. They've been known to ENT for years now

[EdgeOfChaos]

lol i see you didn't get the memes

and i man yes it's hilarious that it took so long for them to get banned seeing as literally every regular dota player knew they were throwers OmegaLUL

but did Vaylen "Best LINA on arem" actually put effort into a ban request for them? I dont remember

[1B_Fantom]

I see them now hahaha. well played

[FalenGa]

@1B_Fantom
When you quote someone you should quote their whole message and maybe link the thread, otherwise people might think you are just trying to prove a point using what fits you best.

He was suggesting to ban every single 500 elo player, just for the fact they are not good. As you should know by now, this is a free public service, meaning everyone is welcome here, so that's not going to happen.
viewtopic.php?f=43&t=130619

In my game with him ( which proves that i have no problem playing in their team ), he went afk several times. That's not playing bad, that's breaking a rule. Hence, the ban.

Then, he dodged that ban. Things are pretty simple. Any questions?

[EdgeOfChaos]

for reference here is the thread: viewtopic.php?f=43&t=130619 (edit) so long later I see falenga linked it himself, durr

TBH I have never heard of this fmaa player he linked, strange for a 500 ELO, ive played with most of em

[1B_Fantom]

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=130619&p=507493#p507493

Theres the full link... I don't think it changes anything about what I was saying? And sure maybe banning or auto-resetting everyone thats sub 500 is harsh, but you can't deny that its a conscious effort to be that bad, which is what he was saying. Anyone who actually cares about the game, or has any semblance of it would at least make a new account, OR USE A FREE RESET if they get that low.

You ignored his points because hes obnoxious. And yes in this instance they were afk and doing game ruining things, you dont think that happens in the majority of their games too that ARENT being reported? I think so many people just assume its been going on so long nothing will happen. All I'm asking for is half the effort you put into tracking down Vaylen and Trashcans into these other notorious bad eggs on ENT. And like I stated, its not just that they are bad... when you reach such a low score it deters people from wanting to play or be a part of the game.

[EdgeOfChaos]

TAKE ME TO DRAMATOWN!

just gonna put in that resetting people below a certain elo would do more harm than good because they would still play like shit but their teammates would lose even more ELO for it.

[FalenGa]

No reports = no bans. We won't just start checking every single low elo player to see what they are up to. I played with him, he broke a rule, i reported him and banned him according to his history.

I don't see why everyone has to be good or even above average in a game. Any player who doesn't like competition is bound to do badly in a game such dota, no matter how many games he has. Afterall, it's a game. They play it to relax, to have fun. Their definition of fun could be entirely different than mine/yours.

As for your other points, they are already covered in the link i provided in my response to vaylen's suggestion.

[EdgeOfChaos]

Also while there is a problem with people who play just barely enough to not get banned while still losing games, there's no easy solution to it unfortunately, it is difficult to determine intent by just watching a replay, which is why I never reported him any of the times he threw.. it wasn't clear enough and he would have just been given benefit of the doubt. It's just one of the costs of ENT allowing newbies in games, really nothing you can do but wait for them to clearly violate a rule. When I started playing dota, no doubt I sucked enough to be a 500 ELO if I played online (we played only inhouse and dota AI when I was learning). It is potentially possible for a player who is not throwing to be that low, though it is unlikely.

[Sylvanas]

I still don't believe there was any specific method in the way those guys played. I don't think there's anyone who secretly plays awfully but not *too* awfully on purpose for years with the goal of having low elo and partially ruining games. They somehow like playing but give negative zero fucks about any part of it.

[kunkka]

maybe that's their definition of "fun", after giving up on getting good