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Game Name: [ENT] Island Defense #36
Your Warcraft III Username: katie
Violator's Warcraft III Username: hddie
Violated Rule(s): early leave
Time of Violation (in-game or replay):
Any further thoughts:
(01:12 / Allied) Hddie: poe is ur faggy ass here
(02:00 / All) Hddie: lol kys
(03:19 / All) Hddie: recks d
(03:39 / Allied) Hddie: !slap katie
(03:57 / All) Hddie: ur shit
(03:58 / All) Hddie: leave
(13:08 / All) Katie: Hddie has left the game voluntarily.
(13:08 / QUIT) Hddie: Left
flames/spams/trolls/annoys me all game before leaving
[ID] Hddie#uswest
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Re: [ID] Hddie#uswest
Reporting others for spam/flame/trolling and beeing annoying is a bit much coming from you^^
Come on bro.
He did leave before 15min tho, better perma ban him.
Come on bro.
He did leave before 15min tho, better perma ban him.
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Re: [ID] Hddie#uswest
Well, here we go boys. First ill start by looking at the messages I sent in game then the rules.
(01:12 / Allied) Hddie: poe is ur faggy ass here
This was during the last 20 seconds of titan select and I didn't know if Poe was the account named Katie or not since he was talking about stomping as titan in discord at the same time. Some flame included ofc.
(02:00 / All) Hddie: lol kys
I got nuked as 250hp sat and Titan then killed 3 of my dens, kinda rude by Poe but yup theres some more flame.
(03:19 / All) Hddie: recks d
Titan failed to ward block a mag and that was hilarious. Doubt that counts as flaming.
(03:31 / All) Katie: !ignore hdd
(03:31 / All) Katie: Player [Katie] has ignored player [Hddie].
(03:38 / All) Katie: !is use !is to bypass and reported
(03:38 / All) Katie: [use !is to bypass and reported] hasn't played any Island Defense games here.
(03:39 / Allied) Hddie: !slap katie
(03:39 / All) Katie: [Hddie] slaps [katie] with a roasted turkey
(03:46 / All) Katie: !is only warning
(03:46 / All) Katie: [only warning] hasn't played any Island Defense games here.
I used the !slap command here not !is and this is the only time I did it. Gotta walk that fine line.
(03:56 / All) Hddie: gray
(03:57 / All) Katie: Imperiatus has left the game voluntarily.
(03:57 / QUIT) Imperiatus: Left
(03:57 / All) Hddie: ur shit
(03:58 / All) Hddie: leave
(04:18 / All) Katie: ColesWater has left the game voluntarily.
(04:18 / QUIT) ColesWater: Left
2 noobs died back to back, I flamed no doubt about that but is it excessive?
(13:08 / All) Katie: Hddie has left the game voluntarily.
And finally the moment of truth, when I gave up on that lobby. 6 people dead (5 left and 1 was playing as a mini)
The general rules that apply would most likely be:
• Do not spam during games (chat, ping, etc.).
• Do not flame, rage, troll, or insult other players excessively.
Here is the list of every message I sent in case anyone is too lazy to read the logs:
(00:09 / Allied) Hddie: -ap
(00:11 / Allied) Hddie: -c 160 l
(00:13 / Allied) Hddie: -clear
(00:28 / Allied) Hddie: -b mur rad drae
(01:12 / Allied) Hddie: poe is ur faggy ass here
(02:00 / All) Hddie: lol kys
(02:02 / Allied) Hddie: breeze
(03:19 / All) Hddie: recks d
(03:28 / Allied) Hddie: demo pls wall
(03:39 / Allied) Hddie: !slap katie
(03:56 / All) Hddie: gray
(03:57 / All) Hddie: ur shit
(03:58 / All) Hddie: leave
(05:51 / Allied) Hddie: mag wall gnol
(06:21 / Allied) Hddie: shoulda waited tbh
(07:00 / Allied) Hddie: fast
(10:10 / All) Hddie: bad game
(10:37 / Allied) Hddie: -c 160 l
(11:19 / Allied) Hddie: !ff
19 messages total but 5 of them were either mode selection, cam commands, clearing the screen, or banning builders during the builder selection phase so we're down to 14 actual messages in a 13 minute and 8 second game. Other than "poe is ur faggy ass here", which he couldn't have seen cause he was Titan, every single message is less than 3 words long. The only thing Poe could've seen in game was: "lol kys", "recks d", "gray ur shit leave", and "bad game" as those were said in all chat. There is absolutely no way that that count's as flaming excessively or spamming chat.
Going to the game specific rules now, the rule in question is:
1. Builders which have not yet died may not leave within the first 15 minutes, unless it has been explicitly stated by an observer that they are willing to take over your builder, or at least 3 builders have already left or become observer.
So there are 10 builders and 1 titan in a game of ID. The first part states that "builders which have not yet died may not leave within the first 15 minutes" so this means that if I'm still alive I can't leave the game unless the second part of the rules are true. 6 builders died and 1 chose to stay and play as a mini so that’s a total of 5 dead builders who left the game. According to the second part of the rules, that satisfies the "at least 3 builders have already left or become observer" part which means I'm off the hook for leaving pre 15. Maybe I misunderstood the rules or maybe the rules need to specify that the 3 builders must be alive when they leave the game but as it currently stands, builders that are alive cannot leave unless 3 (unspecified if alive or dead) builders have already left the game.
I did leave early there is no doubt about that but the rules are vague so I don’t think I did anything wrong as what I did was clearly allowed by the way the rules are phrased.
(01:12 / Allied) Hddie: poe is ur faggy ass here
This was during the last 20 seconds of titan select and I didn't know if Poe was the account named Katie or not since he was talking about stomping as titan in discord at the same time. Some flame included ofc.
(02:00 / All) Hddie: lol kys
I got nuked as 250hp sat and Titan then killed 3 of my dens, kinda rude by Poe but yup theres some more flame.
(03:19 / All) Hddie: recks d
Titan failed to ward block a mag and that was hilarious. Doubt that counts as flaming.
(03:31 / All) Katie: !ignore hdd
(03:31 / All) Katie: Player [Katie] has ignored player [Hddie].
(03:38 / All) Katie: !is use !is to bypass and reported
(03:38 / All) Katie: [use !is to bypass and reported] hasn't played any Island Defense games here.
(03:39 / Allied) Hddie: !slap katie
(03:39 / All) Katie: [Hddie] slaps [katie] with a roasted turkey
(03:46 / All) Katie: !is only warning
(03:46 / All) Katie: [only warning] hasn't played any Island Defense games here.
I used the !slap command here not !is and this is the only time I did it. Gotta walk that fine line.
(03:56 / All) Hddie: gray
(03:57 / All) Katie: Imperiatus has left the game voluntarily.
(03:57 / QUIT) Imperiatus: Left
(03:57 / All) Hddie: ur shit
(03:58 / All) Hddie: leave
(04:18 / All) Katie: ColesWater has left the game voluntarily.
(04:18 / QUIT) ColesWater: Left
2 noobs died back to back, I flamed no doubt about that but is it excessive?
(13:08 / All) Katie: Hddie has left the game voluntarily.
And finally the moment of truth, when I gave up on that lobby. 6 people dead (5 left and 1 was playing as a mini)
The general rules that apply would most likely be:
• Do not spam during games (chat, ping, etc.).
• Do not flame, rage, troll, or insult other players excessively.
Here is the list of every message I sent in case anyone is too lazy to read the logs:
(00:09 / Allied) Hddie: -ap
(00:11 / Allied) Hddie: -c 160 l
(00:13 / Allied) Hddie: -clear
(00:28 / Allied) Hddie: -b mur rad drae
(01:12 / Allied) Hddie: poe is ur faggy ass here
(02:00 / All) Hddie: lol kys
(02:02 / Allied) Hddie: breeze
(03:19 / All) Hddie: recks d
(03:28 / Allied) Hddie: demo pls wall
(03:39 / Allied) Hddie: !slap katie
(03:56 / All) Hddie: gray
(03:57 / All) Hddie: ur shit
(03:58 / All) Hddie: leave
(05:51 / Allied) Hddie: mag wall gnol
(06:21 / Allied) Hddie: shoulda waited tbh
(07:00 / Allied) Hddie: fast
(10:10 / All) Hddie: bad game
(10:37 / Allied) Hddie: -c 160 l
(11:19 / Allied) Hddie: !ff
19 messages total but 5 of them were either mode selection, cam commands, clearing the screen, or banning builders during the builder selection phase so we're down to 14 actual messages in a 13 minute and 8 second game. Other than "poe is ur faggy ass here", which he couldn't have seen cause he was Titan, every single message is less than 3 words long. The only thing Poe could've seen in game was: "lol kys", "recks d", "gray ur shit leave", and "bad game" as those were said in all chat. There is absolutely no way that that count's as flaming excessively or spamming chat.
Going to the game specific rules now, the rule in question is:
1. Builders which have not yet died may not leave within the first 15 minutes, unless it has been explicitly stated by an observer that they are willing to take over your builder, or at least 3 builders have already left or become observer.
So there are 10 builders and 1 titan in a game of ID. The first part states that "builders which have not yet died may not leave within the first 15 minutes" so this means that if I'm still alive I can't leave the game unless the second part of the rules are true. 6 builders died and 1 chose to stay and play as a mini so that’s a total of 5 dead builders who left the game. According to the second part of the rules, that satisfies the "at least 3 builders have already left or become observer" part which means I'm off the hook for leaving pre 15. Maybe I misunderstood the rules or maybe the rules need to specify that the 3 builders must be alive when they leave the game but as it currently stands, builders that are alive cannot leave unless 3 (unspecified if alive or dead) builders have already left the game.
I did leave early there is no doubt about that but the rules are vague so I don’t think I did anything wrong as what I did was clearly allowed by the way the rules are phrased.
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Re: [ID] Hddie#uswest
Never seen so much spam in one singular BRQ, then again it is the ID community.
Anyone whom posted on this topic consider yourselves warned. If I see this happen again it leads to forum warnings and potentially forum bans. Keep your trollish attitudes either in-game or in your own Discord. Hope I made myself clear.
Edit: Oh and locked.
Anyone whom posted on this topic consider yourselves warned. If I see this happen again it leads to forum warnings and potentially forum bans. Keep your trollish attitudes either in-game or in your own Discord. Hope I made myself clear.
Edit: Oh and locked.
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Re: [ID] Hddie#uswest
Flame insignificant, won't ban for the leave.
The times don't match with the story => early leave and yet leaves 2 minutes before game end. Ok.
Following that, game was pretty much over anyways.
The times don't match with the story => early leave and yet leaves 2 minutes before game end. Ok.
Following that, game was pretty much over anyways.
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