[LTD] bumpimp ghosting

[Krocis]

Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11538975
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #38
Your Warcraft III Username: CarryPotter
Violator's Warcraft III Username: bumpimp
Violated Rule(s): Do not ghost by leaking information to your enemies/opponents.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): all game
Any further thoughts: https://www.twitch.tv/bumpimp

This guy is just streaming public games without any delay on it.

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Replay Link: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=11538975
Game Name: [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #38
Your Warcraft III Username: CarryPotter
Violator's Warcraft III Username: MilkyWay
Violated Rule(s): abuse ghosting
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): all game
Any further thoughts: team wanted 2/3 but he randomly wanted 4 or 5 while we were fucked there.

(02:07 / Allied) MoLoCEL: need mili though
(02:09 / Allied) MoLoCEL: or 2 send
(02:30 / Allied) MoLoCEL: go 2?
(02:32 / Allied) Legionaire[1o1]: 3
(02:33 / Allied) Milkyway: i want 5
(02:34 / Allied) Legionaire[1o1]: go mili
(02:38 / Allied) Milkyway: 4 or 5

Obviously watching his stream while we were clock(ok its ez to scout due to killspeed),aqua,engi, and i was mixing knights.

(04:21 / Allied) Legionaire[1o1]: so slow
(04:23 / Allied) Legionaire[1o1]: maybe ygg
(04:35 / Allied) Milkyway: think knights



while i had knight with add which is not rly ez to scout due to kill speed lol

[kasper699]

there is nothing in the chat log saying they ghosting, i did not public advertise that i am streaming.

if i get a ban i want all other streamewrs to get bans too since they dont have delay. for example lforward and many others as well.

old mate is just mad that the other team did a blind 5 send and we had immo.

o wait the very next game they did it again a blind send [ENT] Legion TD Mega 1200+ #40 (maybe these people like blind 5 because we have stomp this game)

[Krocis]

Ye i am about to report this game as well. Also they str5 while its 100% calling milkyway and ye u suck 5 that game so they just str 5 kingskill doesnt matter rly. Str 5 is not rly common call in 1200 games and he is obviously knows about your stream and obviously play vs you due to this reason. No matter if u make or dont make any advertise to your stream.

[kasper699]

yeah straight 5 not common... just 2 games in a row now lets see if it will make it 3 in a row? i bet if i am vs milkyway since he always dose straight 5.

that other guy brosk-panda ( something like that) i would put my money on when vs him straight 5 95% of the time.

at level 1 milkyway said i want 4 or 5. personally i like sending 4 or 5, since it brakes the meta and sometime its wins the game sometimes it fail send but you need to risk it sometimes.

[Krocis]

So sweet how u wanna excuse your ghosting

[BoretkPanda]

Why don't u just delay ur Stream about 2-5minutes at least?

Haha just noticed I had milky in my team last game vs bumpimp.

[Panopticon]

Definitely need to delay the stream to minimum of 10 minutes imo, elsewise its much 2 easy to ghost and the streamer is responsible for it.
Pls do not abuse ents general userfriendly tolerance for streaming, or it could backfire at everybody else thats wants to share their game and spread the word about legion td.
If you go vs panda straight 5 95% of a time despite any information given out of wave 1-4, i would consider that a lie, no offense, since i dont think ur that kind of a one dimensional player that cant react to infos given.

[skarking]

ok i se this guy is streamer but last week he and his frend wanted ice banned here viewtopic.php?f=8&t=136461 and @kasper699 did ghost on this game to.

he did "!slap we send 15"
And he want ice banned OKI

[Augustinus]

I am not sure why you report the streamer, @krocis, and not only the guy who was supposedly abusing the stream to make calls.
The ENT rules state the following regarding streams:

The use of any utility (FCD, maphack, stream sniping, etc.) that gives you an unfair advantage over other players will result in a heavy ban.

There are more well known streams and it would be a shame if streamers could not stream games on ENT out of fear of abuse. There is a more well known streamer who also does not use a lot of delay and I hope that the ENT community respects streamers and does not try to draw an unfair advantage from it.

LT;DR: Just turn the stream off, if you are in the enemy team

[BoretkPanda]

well most of report goes to milky no?

[Augustinus]

well most of report goes to milky no?

I just realised. sry

[Stiff_Maistar]

You can see it in some of the other games that milkyway was watching the stream, he would suddenly cancel his wisps for lvl 4 to build max value because the other team were sending that wave.

Eitherway when the streamer dont have delay on his stream he is taking the risk and the streamer can be banned for breaking the rule: Do not ghost by leaking information to your enemies/opponents.

[Augustinus]

You can see it in some of the other games that milkyway was watching the stream, he would suddenly cancel his wisps for lvl 4 to build max value because the other team were sending that wave.

Eitherway when the streamer dont have delay on his stream he is taking the risk and the streamer can be banned for breaking the rule: Do not ghost by leaking information to your enemies/opponents.

I do not see how this makes a huge difference. You can still read the chat on the stream and even hear people talking on discord.

[Stiff_Maistar]

And if they leak any information in the chat on the stream, or at discord they will break the rule

[MungoLake]

I remember only ever discovering LTD through a streamer called PYRO, i was only ever a regular Warcraft 3 player and noticed his stream and wondered what this LTD game was. Asking him questions and watching his stream was how i tried LTD and without noticing his stream i would never have known about LTD.

Punishing your greatest source for recruiting new players to ENT bots would be a shame granted how small the community is and the opportunity for new players to discover it is only through people who stream. If someone wants to cheat and the evidence is strong enough then punish the cheater, not the streamer. The community is super fragile with small groups of friends always defending each other. You ruin it for one person then you ruin it for quite a few!