[DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

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[DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

Postby Prime987 » Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:53 pm

Replay Link: http://storage.entgaming.net/replay/vie ... 551195.w3g
Game Name: [ENT] DotA arem us/ca #5
Your Warcraft III Username: MiyagiSan
Violator's Warcraft III Username: Shorteststraw, all sentinel refused to votekick
Violated Rule(s): refused to help or defend.
Time of Violation (in-game or replay): shorteststraw, entire game. no specific timestamp as it is literally entire game. 25+ minutes of jungle.
Any further thoughts: this guy just got mad chen did not swap him and he refused to help. after he dies twice top, he goes jungle all game. No specific timestamp because it is literally all game he was in jungle and not helping to push or defend towers. it's not his first time getting banned from ENT so please do everyone a favor and make it a good ban.

Also, ban others for not votekick: I explained several times what shorteststraw did and these guys don't kick. i made threevotekick tries explaining every time and none sentinel kick. for 30 minutes, bristle just running around at jungle farming and he even said he won't help because he will jungle.
8 minute mark i go top because bristle leaves it and go mid, bristle then leaves mid and let pugna get tower so he can follow pink around. we lose two towers because bristle upset he did not get chen.
(08:49 / Allied) MiyagiSan: !votekick short
(09:12 / All) m-a-x: what he did?
(09:17 / All) MiyagiSan: follows pink around
(09:19 / All) MiyagiSan: goes mid
(09:19 / All) tryurbest: he follow me in woods
(09:21 / All) tryurbest: for no reason
(09:22 / All) MiyagiSan: then leaves it to follow pink
(09:43 / All) MiyagiSan: kick him now intentional feed

(10:40 / Allied) Zen-: brist help us bot
(10:43 / Allied) Zen-: go away
(10:43 / Allied) ShortestStraw: no
(10:45 / Allied) ShortestStraw: im woodin

(10:46 / Allied) Zen-: of woods
(10:54 / Allied) ShortestStraw: nope
(10:58 / Allied) ShortestStraw: woodin next 5 min



(17:08 / All) MiyagiSan: he was literally right next to u guys and went to jungle
(17:11 / Allied) MiyagiSan: !votekick short

(17:28 / All) m-a-x: he is lvl 10
(17:33 / All) MiyagiSan: cause hes jungle all game
(17:33 / All) m-a-x: he has 2deaths
(17:37 / All) m-a-x: and?
(18:08 / All) m-a-x: what i thinks is you want his money

(24:11 / All) MiyagiSan: !votekick short
(24:11 / All) Porto: A votekick against player [ShortestStraw] has been started by player [MiyagiSan]. 7 votes are needed within 60 seconds to pass.

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Re: [DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

Postby ShortestStraw » Mon Nov 12, 2018 9:12 am

I was not refusing to help, except for one instance where I communicated to my team (Actually one player) that I will be wooding for a bit. Some towers fell, i wasn't able to defend them alone anyways. Teamplay was bad. I wasn't able to lane freely therefore I did go farm wood a little - nothing excessive. I believe MiyagiSan deserves a ban for Vk abuse but I don't care to make a request. I tried my best this game and failed.
Have a good day

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Re: [DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

Postby NotTodarjr » Tue Nov 13, 2018 2:05 am

@shorteststraw, nobody needs to watch the replay, just based on your response, you refused to defend and know it... don't blame bad teamplay for refusing to help, "I will be wooding for a bit, some towers fell", would you not call that refusing to defend? derp, take your ban

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Re: [DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

Postby Now2 » Tue Nov 13, 2018 6:00 am

towers fall not a big deal. Him farming a bit is fine.... if they were pushing hard going for a rax then he would be obligated to defend. farming is good and can be much more valuable then a single tower.
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Re: [DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

Postby ShortestStraw » Wed Nov 14, 2018 9:46 pm

NotTodarjr wrote:@shorteststraw, nobody needs to watch the replay, just based on your response, you refused to defend and know it... don't blame bad teamplay for refusing to help, "I will be wooding for a bit, some towers fell", would you not call that refusing to defend? derp, take your ban


I'd rather not mate, but if I must than from now all players who do not come defend falling towers should be banned. Make it a new rule and have 99% of players banned at all times. I defended base and most towers. I was severely underfed and underleveled. When my lane's tower was falling noone came to defend either but I am not going to submit a request for that cause this happens in 99% of games. Sometimes it is strategical to let towers fall to avoid death and bait the enemy further in for some kills. I sincerely believe that my no item and no level bristle would not be of any help at defending the said tower. I helped when I felt I could be of more aid.
Anyways.
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Re: [DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

Postby THR » Sat Nov 24, 2018 5:33 pm

i played that game ,,, if he pickied chen , it was just to piss me off as an enemy player and the guy clearly know i play chen a lot ;)

he did really well with is chen ( i am ablke to say it even if i wa son the enemy team)

your ban request is based on your frustraChen and your lost


we had teamplay , you guys didnt


i would deny that brq and ban you for making people waste time cuz u have emotionnal problem !

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Re: [DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

Postby BeerLord » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:29 pm

This is not about not defending one tower. From min 12 on bristle pretty much jungles and does not participate in team pushes or team fights.
(09:59 / All) ShortestStraw: i hope u win
Chat indicative of his attitude in this game.
Auto-follows allies in woods.
Finishes 0-2 with one assist.
Clearly meets criteria for game ruin.
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shorteststraw banned 7 days for game ruin/failure to cooperate with allies/vk abuse.

Will evaluate failure to votekick issue later.

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Re: [DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

Postby BeerLord » Sat Nov 24, 2018 8:30 pm

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Re: [DOTA] shorteststraw, all sentinel, dota -refusal to help and defend

Postby BeerLord » Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:09 am

3 votekick attempts initiated, each clearly explained.
grams, breus, m-a-x, appolo, and Kaboooom all failed to vote and are each banned 2 days.


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