[LTD] aygut - solo upping and vk abuse - ghosting

[whiteicefire]

you are the clueless one lmao the sasquatch goes in first stuns letting the malphs come around ther sides bearing the brunt of the attack they then die popping out flies while the rest surround the sasquatch and are stunned again

[MethodMale]

You turned this brq into ignorant fight. U both dont know how to play malfs which is not the point! The point is that white did suboptimal playstyle mute all the team and made the game worse for us!

[Astros]

@sqweek777 , this isn't the place for you to argue with someone about strategy. If you have any sufficient evidence that would help the report, you should add them here or don't comment.

solo-upping: Teal solo ups king despite his team not agreeing to it. When told to stop, starts flaming and continues upgrading the king.

Flaming red: Teal flames everyone on the team except purple. Creates a toxic environment since the beginning of the game which leads to everyone disagreeing with each other. Since red ignores blue/teal in the lobby, they likely had a bad encounter before this game even started.

votekick abuse: I don't think this was votekick abuse. Red didn't listen to his teammates and stated, "I'm trying a new build." While that isn't a problem, it could also be looked at as ignoring his teammates advice considering red was leaking quite a few rounds.

ghosting:
(17:32 / All) aygut: red is not incomer
(17:33 / All) DjamDjamDjam: he is pro
(17:34 / All) Edsla: cant kick incomer
(17:35 / Allied) frozenfire: till inkome
(17:36 / All) TFTDeSheeP: he isnt incomer at 6/2
(17:39 / All) aygut: he has low push


Teal reveals that red has "low push" and that could certainly help the other team in regards to red's status.

aygut should be banned for refusal to cooperate/game-ruining.

[MethodMale]

They saw him in mid on lvl 9 shortly after i said he has low push. I never revealed his precise push or his units. The person that created the bad enviroment was red and put us all in a bad state. The call on 12 was made only once long time before 12. Since i was controling i was not sure and i didn't want to lose heals on 10 so i made few ups. And i u call uping king few times uncopperating, when i was clearly trying to help both red and purple, was sending with team even covering missing sends is a big shame on your part and what u have just stated! As a matter of fact the only person that was refusing to cooperate was red! As i mentioned before i was the 10 holder and i needed earlier income for a better hold which i did and it worked since i had decent value mid! I would like a more experienced admin to review the case such as @legiontdgrrr !

[Astros]

They saw him in mid on lvl 9 shortly after i said he has low push. I never revealed his precise push or his units. The person that created the bad enviroment was red and put us all in a bad state. The call on 12 was made only once long time before 12. Since i was controling i was not sure and i didn't want to lose heals on 10 so i made few ups. And i u call uping king few times uncopperating, when i was clearly trying to help both red and purple, was sending with team even covering missing sends is a big shame on your part and what u have just stated! As a matter of fact the only person that was refusing to cooperate was red! As i mentioned before i was the 10 holder and i needed earlier income for a better hold which i did and it worked since i had decent value mid! I would like a more experienced admin to review the case such as @legiontdgrrr !

You shouldn't assume what the enemy team did or didn't see. They could have been paying attention to something else. It doesn't matter if it was precise or not. A simple declaration of what red's status in-game was could be deemed ghosting. If for example you send two dinos at X level and your teammate says you are sending without being specific about what you are sending, it is still ghosting. Also, a player on the other team actually thought he was incoming as illustrated here:

(17:32 / All) aygut: red is not incomer
(17:33 / All) DjamDjamDjam: he is pro
(17:34 / All) Edsla: cant kick incomer
(17:35 / Allied) frozenfire: till inkome
(17:36 / All) TFTDeSheeP: he isnt incomer at 6/2
(17:39 / All) aygut: he has low push

Reading the chat, it seems you are the one creating a toxic environment.

[MethodMale]

Why wouldnt they check a free leak, i don't get your point. People aren't as stupid as you think they are. And low push can mean many things like 2-0 lvl 9 or 6-2 lvl 9 which he was. Playing with someone who deliberately trolls and wants to disturb the game in a passive agressive way, refusing to cooperate and ignores all is a reason for a toxic enviroment. I'm afraid you're reading the game wrong and you haven't even spent time to check the replay.

[Astros]

I am not going to go back and forth with you assuming what the other player may misconstrue it as. The rules are very simple:

Game Ruining Rules

Do not ruin the game on purpose:

Do not teamkill (ex. blocking, maliciously using spells, destroying/hiding/stealing/massing items, selling towers, etc).
Do not go away from keyboard for an excessive amount of time, especially without telling other players beforehand, and/or refuse to play the game in an attempt to ruin it. Neither are you allowed to grief by resetting the afk timer.
Do not feed or suicide on purpose which negatively affects the game.
Do not purposely glitch or exploit the game.
Do not ghost by leaking information to your enemies/opponents.
Do not refuse to learn/and or cooperate: this does not mean being new/bad is bannable.
If teammates shared control, do not abuse it.

You did leak information. How the other team interprets that is irrelevant.

Also, you are the individual being reported here - not red. If you want to report red for whatever reason, you're entitled to do so. But this isn't about him.

I am not a mod but this is merely my position on this.

[jamil]

just to clarify, i clearly held 10...didnt need teal holding 10, he also ups at last second when king still has 2k hp....noone else is upping king...teal played solo

[whiteicefire]

that last rule do not refuse to learn and/or cooperate needs defining as it stands its too open to interpretation

[Merex]

Upgrades didn't seem malicious, nor were they
"at random" but rather during/after leaks. Still sent with
team regardless and it's a win.

However, both him and purple were deceiving rules/info &
votekick abusing red for ignoring one person.

That said, both banned until the 12th.