To prove I am not insane

[Jazzy3113]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233659/

Takes them over an hour to win when I have nap and bobby ruining 24/7.

It is unreal, it is like if I dont get the ruiner, I am against the slark/meepo picker.

[mk4r32]

Jazzy, don’t take mid anymore. That bs game was on you for failing mid.

The game would’ve played out lot better if you actually played. You were getting rocked mid against slark and you gave up prematurely talking shit again

Geo would have played lot better too if you supported him. And yes, pay does feed a lot but he plays to win and tries to rax when he can.

I’m not even talking shit, you don’t help out early at all.
Never seen you with a tp early game and you more times than not blame your teammate for failing.

I also seen lot of games where you call it a stack but elo is balanced.

The biggest reason why it’s a stack is they dodge you at the lobby knowing you are gonna blame all chat and distract.

At this point, so many others have told you this already but you refuse to admit it.

You always talk about how players won’t admit to them playing like shit but you don’t either

Like look at your cs and items as a mid BS,you literally was grieving where we had to -afk

[Jazzy3113]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233856/

Jazzy classic.

Lowest elo on team but most kills and assists? Check

Have teammates who are over 1100 elo but play like shit (b/c everyone has a bad game once in awhile)? Check

@mk4r32 - please let me know what I did wrong this time.

[Jazzy3113]

Jazzy, don’t take mid anymore. That bs game was on you for failing mid.

The game would’ve played out lot better if you actually played. You were getting rocked mid against slark and you gave up prematurely talking shit again

Geo would have played lot better too if you supported him. And yes, pay does feed a lot but he plays to win and tries to rax when he can.

I’m not even talking shit, you don’t help out early at all.
Never seen you with a tp early game and you more times than not blame your teammate for failing.

I also seen lot of games where you call it a stack but elo is balanced.

The biggest reason why it’s a stack is they dodge you at the lobby knowing you are gonna blame all chat and distract.

At this point, so many others have told you this already but you refuse to admit it.

You always talk about how players won’t admit to them playing like shit but you don’t either

Like look at your cs and items as a mid BS,you literally was grieving where we had to -afk

Thanks for watching.

To address your comments,

I had to mid, no one else took it LOL.

Slark is a broken hero on this version. I had to play defensive to not feed him. I was BS and lost mid to a slark, not sure what else I can do lol. Beat a slark?

Now your next criticism is something I have noticed alot of you do. You have all pivoted from saying I feed, solo play, dont ward, only ks TO well jazzy, you never support your team. LOL. What?

I am supposed to support geo so he doesn't feed? Seriously? If someone feeds, its because i dont support? You know meepo has travel boots and flys all over feeding right? How exactly do i prevent teammates from feeding?

I call it a stack even when elo is balanced, because people make new names dude. And you can tell its a high elo player even if its a new account. So ofc thats a stack.

And for the LAST TIME, I do not claim to be a pro or a carry. I CLAIM that I dont ruin the game so that it is unwinnable. I dont feed. I dont not ward. I dont not teamplay. I play average. I DO NOT RUIN.

Meepo ruined. He fed over and over and over again, so we had no chance.

I CLAIM that i get players that make the game unwinnable. Do you see the difference?

I do not say, hey i can carry and you all suck and dont support me. I say that if there are ten players in a game, and one of them is bobby. I will get bobby 9/10. Probably because good players dodge and shit players dont care to move around. But it is still a fact. I do not get the slark pickers and I always get the ruiners the majority of the time.

The game you are referencing, pay picked meepo and fed so hard the game became unwinnable. And your opinion is that me as BS caused the feed? because i didnt support meepo? Cmon man.

[Jazzy3113]

I honestly took most of the initial advice i was given.

I dont blindly pick NA anymore. And when I do, I rarely go dagon.

I play support some times now.

I ward.

I dont try to KS and focus on assists as being helpful as well.

I dont demand mid.

But still I get ruiners. And its not even the Bobbys or pegaeses that piss me off. Its when good players ruin. Check the last link i posted. Trader and moba are much higher elo than me. They didnt just play bad. They fed hard and made awful charges. And the very next game they were normal opponents again. Coincidence?

[Jazzy3113]

@mk4r32

these are my last two games. Moba was on my team in the first game and against me the second game. In the first game he was a terrible bara. Many deaths and low level, but most importantly his charges were awful. he continued to charge husk solo and cost us the game (along with trader feeding).

the very next game he picked LC and not only was he competent, he carried.

Same exact player. One awful game with bone headed plays and one game where he teamplayed. Only difference was he was on my team on one and against me the other.

And I know what you will say, everyone has bad games, but they seem to happen to me more often than not.

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233856/
https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233860/

[dumpster_]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233856/

Jazzy classic.

Lowest elo on team but most kills and assists? Check

Have teammates who are over 1100 elo but play like shit (b/c everyone has a bad game once in awhile)? Check

@mk4r32 - please let me know what I did wrong this time.

You built garbage items.

And you had neither the highest kills, nor the highest assists, nor the highest kills+assists.

And you absolutely do ruin.
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12233828
4-11-3 od. Worst on team by far.
Died repeatedly to husk for literally no reason.

Did you stop taking your pills?

[Astros]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233856/

Jazzy classic.

Lowest elo on team but most kills and assists? Check

Have teammates who are over 1100 elo but play like shit (b/c everyone has a bad game once in awhile)? Check

@mk4r32 - please let me know what I did wrong this time.

a good jugg could carry that game easily.

No one on your team played outrageously bad. Trader is hit or miss but leshrac is just a bad matchup there so naturally he's going to have a bad game

I think it's more outrageous that you decided to show a replay where in 46 minutes, you only managed to kill 77 creeps. That's an indictment on yourself. How do you manage fewer than 2 creep kills per minute as one of the easiest heroes to farm with? Probably too busy typing nonsense and not focusing on actually farming so you can hard carry the game.

Your score isn't bad. 13/6/10. Wow, amazing. I guarantee most of those kills were meaningless kills with low impact. What good is a kill going to do for your team when you do nothing with it? Blueneme is 4/5/31. I guarantee you he played his role better than you did. Probably bought wards, saved his teammates, didn't feed, made meaningful plays, teleported to help his team in crucial parts of the game etc.,

Your role as carry is to farm, outlevel your opponent, and win the game for your team. It seems what you did was omnislash for meaningless kills, stood there afk for most of the game so you can type the next Harry Potter script, and then blame your team when you can't carry. with your score and assuming you actually focused, there should be zero reason why you aren't full items so you can upgrade your basher, probably get rid of that useless scepter that late into the game, sell that wack ass manta for bkb, and buy some more useful hard carry items where you can actually kill someone without relying on omnislash. You'd probably have more value that game playing a different role for your team.

I know it's tough to understand basic dynamics of this game. IDK how you have played massively more games than myself, Frank, etc., on here and still don't understand these basic concepts. If you're carry, you're expected to carry the game. Your team held on long enough for you to be able to carry that game. You just weren't up-to-par. You think if Frank, myself, or ifck joined a game picking carry, we're expecting trader to carry us?

[Astros]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233659/

Takes them over an hour to win when I have nap and bobby ruining 24/7.

It is unreal, it is like if I dont get the ruiner, I am against the slark/meepo picker.

here is another display of severe retardation.

1) manta style is good but you don't have the damage output to make it worthwhile. your deadbeat clones effectively do minimal damage because only your basher generates decent damage.
2) linkens? you're playing against a bara. bolbol is a competent player who knows he can cancel your linkens for free by pressing charge on you. Why did you buy that useless item? that item could get canceled so easily by the enemy team. why not just buy BKB if you're worried about getting disabled? you would effectively have made husk, lich, and lion useless in team fights because none of them would be able to do anything to you. then you could just right click them and chase them down while your team picks off the rest.
3) scepter is pretty useless on jugg late game because by then, the other team would have purchased a counter item to negate it or mostly stick together which means your omnislash becomes highly situational as compared to early when you're basically guaranteed to get a kill.

what you've illustrated is low IQ braindead buying the same items regardless of who you're playing against because you have a mental disorder. I mean, how else does someone churn out 20k+ dota games in their lifetime and still don't understand how to build situational? does it need to be spelled out to you that certain items in the game are a complete waste of money and that an appropriate early game build could make a significant difference?

your entire item build makes no sense. why did you build mask of madness as your first item? just finish your treads so you can get the stat bonuses. It's 1k gold to finish your treads and 2k gold for MoM. there isn't any circumstance where the MoM is a better value item that early into the game. Jugg has low mana so if you use MoM in an early game, you're pretty much only able to use only of the following: spin, ward, or omnislash and that's it. Building treads, you could switch to agility if you need to farm, strength for the extra hp survivability, and then intel if you need to use some more mana.

some better item choices early into the game and situationally building for late game, you can win these games. But when you're building 14k worth of useless items and have low damage late into the game as one of the better carry heroes in the game, I guess it makes more sense to blame the 500 ELO napolyon who in all fairness, probably had one of his best games ever. why don't you just dig up what the better players who have played jugg pick and just follow their item builds? because yours are atrocious and you build the same way every game like it's a masterpiece

[Jazzy3113]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233856/

Jazzy classic.

Lowest elo on team but most kills and assists? Check

Have teammates who are over 1100 elo but play like shit (b/c everyone has a bad game once in awhile)? Check

@mk4r32 - please let me know what I did wrong this time.

You built garbage items.

And you had neither the highest kills, nor the highest assists, nor the highest kills+assists.

And you absolutely do ruin.
https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=12233828
4-11-3 od. Worst on team by far.
Died repeatedly to husk for literally no reason.

Did you stop taking your pills?

Dumpster - in that game, I asked the team at the start what hero to get to counter husk because he always goes for me. They all signed off on OD. I also got cyclone and linkens to help my survivability.

Finally, every death of mine was in the team fights. There was zero solo deaths, I was always near a teammate. I happened to always die first in the team battles. I did not play great, but a ruin? That is when someone doesn't teamplay, solos or does their own thing. I don't expect you to watch the whole game, but if you did, you would see I was always around a teammate.

[Jazzy3113]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233856/

Jazzy classic.

Lowest elo on team but most kills and assists? Check

Have teammates who are over 1100 elo but play like shit (b/c everyone has a bad game once in awhile)? Check

@mk4r32 - please let me know what I did wrong this time.

a good jugg could carry that game easily.

No one on your team played outrageously bad. Trader is hit or miss but leshrac is just a bad matchup there so naturally he's going to have a bad game

I think it's more outrageous that you decided to show a replay where in 46 minutes, you only managed to kill 77 creeps. That's an indictment on yourself. How do you manage fewer than 2 creep kills per minute as one of the easiest heroes to farm with? Probably too busy typing nonsense and not focusing on actually farming so you can hard carry the game.

Your score isn't bad. 13/6/10. Wow, amazing. I guarantee most of those kills were meaningless kills with low impact. What good is a kill going to do for your team when you do nothing with it? Blueneme is 4/5/31. I guarantee you he played his role better than you did. Probably bought wards, saved his teammates, didn't feed, made meaningful plays, teleported to help his team in crucial parts of the game etc.,

Your role as carry is to farm, outlevel your opponent, and win the game for your team. It seems what you did was omnislash for meaningless kills, stood there afk for most of the game so you can type the next Harry Potter script, and then blame your team when you can't carry. with your score and assuming you actually focused, there should be zero reason why you aren't full items so you can upgrade your basher, probably get rid of that useless scepter that late into the game, sell that wack ass manta for bkb, and buy some more useful hard carry items where you can actually kill someone without relying on omnislash. You'd probably have more value that game playing a different role for your team.

I know it's tough to understand basic dynamics of this game. IDK how you have played massively more games than myself, Frank, etc., on here and still don't understand these basic concepts. If you're carry, you're expected to carry the game. Your team held on long enough for you to be able to carry that game. You just weren't up-to-par. You think if Frank, myself, or ifck joined a game picking carry, we're expecting trader to carry us?

Astros,

I don't disagree that a high caliber jugg could have won it. However, I am a 900 - 1050 elo type player. I will never have a single hero carry type skill. What I can do is be a 13-6-10 type player. I don't expect you to watch the whole game, but you would have seen most of my deaths came at the end, trying to defend after the trader and grinde feed had occurred.

I am trying to do better with specific heroes. I used to rush scepter on jugg. Now I get damage items first. But we need to keep in mind this is ent. Meaning just because someone plays a carry type hero, doesn't mean by not carrying its a ruin. We have all played games where a omni carries a spec. It's not like we are all pros. Is not lesh a carry as well? Trader died 18 times, at some point, doesn't that feed become too much to overcome?

I do not know how you can say no one played outrageously bad. Trader demanded mid as usual. He then went on a feeding spree. I think that not all scores are created equal. Let's use trader as the example. He ended as 7-18 right? But it is not like he was 5-8 at one point and then the other team took over. He started like 1-9. By that point it was too late to come back. He got some kills at the end to make his score not look crazy, but the early feed is tough to overcome right? And MOBA, who is an 1100 elo player and who the very next game carried his team as LC, when on my team as bara this game, made awful charges. If you read the chat log, my whole team was calling him out. He repeatedly charged husk solo. REPEATEDLY. I do not know why you don't think those two players, at 1400 and 1100 elo, played well.

You mention my kills were low impact. I really do not know how to defend the kills. Maybe they were low impact, but a kill or an assist is helpful in my opinion. And I agree blue is a super support player, so cant argue that point.

The final point you make is solid, and it is a point I have agreed with countless times. Yes, a better skilled player can carry much harder than me. Yes, if I was simply a better player, I can overcome ruiners like MOBA and trader. I do not disagree. I can only improve so much. I have migrated from being perpetually 750 - 800 elo to average. I just am not good enough to single handedly win a game.

But my point to you, is why in the heck do players continue to underperform their elo when on my team? In this game, there was a player named grinde. I have no idea who this idiot was. he was so bad, my own team asked to kick him several times. But his awful didnt bother me. Because he is a crappy player and in the other games that day, he continued to suck massively. He played to his skill level and was consistent. He sucked for me. And he sucked against me. Thats ent and DOTA, some guys do their own thing and suck. But he was CONSISTENT across games.

Trader and MOBA played with and against me that day. I already mentioned how the next game MOBA was a competent LC and carried. That is where I get rankled. WHat is it about me that makes people underperform. I didn't start complaining in the game, until around min 20, when trader was 1-9. So the first 20 mins, there was no flaming or whining. I didnt "make" trader suck. I didnt "distract" my team the first 20. I quietly played and watched as that colossal ass fed and fed and fed and fed. And then i snapped.

Yes, I can always play better. I agree with you. And yes, a better jugg at your level carries harder that game. Maybe, though, because the other team was solid, played together and had zero ruiners. So the game might have been unwinnable.

But my point continues to be, why do players, specifically high elo players, have these one off awful games for me? If we ignore this random idiot Grinde, I was the lowest elo on the team. I should not be performing the best. I should be contributing, but the high elo players should be rocking. But they were not even average, they were really bad.

That is my only point. As a low elo player, I should not always be top or top 2 on my team. I should be bottom 2 performance wise.

Maybe going forward, I do not pick carries anymore. But this game, I felt like we needed an agility hero because the top 3 elo players went 2 int and one strength and the awful player went agility. So i tried to make a balanced pick.

[Jazzy3113]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233659/

Takes them over an hour to win when I have nap and bobby ruining 24/7.

It is unreal, it is like if I dont get the ruiner, I am against the slark/meepo picker.

here is another display of severe retardation.

1) manta style is good but you don't have the damage output to make it worthwhile. your deadbeat clones effectively do minimal damage because only your basher generates decent damage.
2) linkens? you're playing against a bara. bolbol is a competent player who knows he can cancel your linkens for free by pressing charge on you. Why did you buy that useless item? that item could get canceled so easily by the enemy team. why not just buy BKB if you're worried about getting disabled? you would effectively have made husk, lich, and lion useless in team fights because none of them would be able to do anything to you. then you could just right click them and chase them down while your team picks off the rest.
3) scepter is pretty useless on jugg late game because by then, the other team would have purchased a counter item to negate it or mostly stick together which means your omnislash becomes highly situational as compared to early when you're basically guaranteed to get a kill.

what you've illustrated is low IQ braindead buying the same items regardless of who you're playing against because you have a mental disorder. I mean, how else does someone churn out 20k+ dota games in their lifetime and still don't understand how to build situational? does it need to be spelled out to you that certain items in the game are a complete waste of money and that an appropriate early game build could make a significant difference?

your entire item build makes no sense. why did you build mask of madness as your first item? just finish your treads so you can get the stat bonuses. It's 1k gold to finish your treads and 2k gold for MoM. there isn't any circumstance where the MoM is a better value item that early into the game. Jugg has low mana so if you use MoM in an early game, you're pretty much only able to use only of the following: spin, ward, or omnislash and that's it. Building treads, you could switch to agility if you need to farm, strength for the extra hp survivability, and then intel if you need to use some more mana.

some better item choices early into the game and situationally building for late game, you can win these games. But when you're building 14k worth of useless items and have low damage late into the game as one of the better carry heroes in the game, I guess it makes more sense to blame the 500 ELO napolyon who in all fairness, probably had one of his best games ever. why don't you just dig up what the better players who have played jugg pick and just follow their item builds? because yours are atrocious and you build the same way every game like it's a masterpiece

The build was based on better players. In one game recently, ifck said jugg is based on attack speed. So thats why i got mask fast and then treads. I was trying to build up attack speed. And for a player of my skill level, linkens is more helpful than BKB, because I always fuck up using bkb. On top of that husk ults still hit bkb, and bara bashes through my bkb. I felt linkens could save me from the continued lion daggers into me for sheep and his ult.

You are good enough to have seen it was amazing me and voker held off an entire stack for an hour. I had bobby and nap and some random moyu account that was 4-16.

You keep focusing on my play, AND I AGREE, i still have room for massive improvement.

But bobby and nap have played as much as me and you over the years right? WHY ARE THEY NOT IMPROVING ONE IOTA? Did u you see bobby's build order that game?

[mk4r32]

But my point to you, is why in the heck do players continue to underperform their elo when on my team?

LOL, are you serious? Cuz you don't know how to play your role in different match ups. You find a noob as a scapegoat to blame on.

Why are you conveniently leaving out your poor play mid with zero CS and not even attempting to deny creeps. Slark is imba late game but it's easy to deal with him early. Don't act like you haven't played a game where a slark gets destroyed.

You gave up the game after losing mid badly and shifted your focus on meepo feeding. How do you never have a TP early game tho when you are not mid which is majority of the games?

Slark had an easy mid with good farm so his team played their role and roamed the map with him for constant ganks and pushes is really the real reason why Pay fed with meepo. You woulda blamed geo regardelss if he was playing passive hiding and not pushing the lanes out.

We told you this shit so many times, learn to play your role. You can't expect high elo players to carry you ever game when they are getting ganked and you are in your lane all chat commentating.

You are honestly just arguing for the sake of attention and have an excuse for everything. You are for real tiring.

[Bobalhao]

https://entgaming.net/openstats/game/12233659/

Takes them over an hour to win when I have nap and bobby ruining 24/7.

It is unreal, it is like if I dont get the ruiner, I am against the slark/meepo picker.

Hey, Jazzy! How you doing?

Dude, sorry to disappoint you, but that viper you posted is not me.

Chill, my love. If you dont, you will go ziplining all the way down to insanity.

[Jazzy3113]

But my point to you, is why in the heck do players continue to underperform their elo when on my team?

LOL, are you serious? Cuz you don't know how to play your role in different match ups. You find a noob as a scapegoat to blame on.

Why are you conveniently leaving out your poor play mid with zero CS and not even attempting to deny creeps. Slark is imba late game but it's easy to deal with him early. Don't act like you haven't played a game where a slark gets destroyed.

You gave up the game after losing mid badly and shifted your focus on meepo feeding. How do you never have a TP early game tho when you are not mid which is majority of the games?

Slark had an easy mid with good farm so his team played their role and roamed the map with him for constant ganks and pushes is really the real reason why Pay fed with meepo. You woulda blamed geo regardelss if he was playing passive hiding and not pushing the lanes out.

We told you this shit so many times, learn to play your role. You can't expect high elo players to carry you ever game when they are getting ganked and you are in your lane all chat commentating.

You are honestly just arguing for the sake of attention and have an excuse for everything. You are for real tiring.

I am not arguing slark didnt beat me mid. He did. If you want to argue slark is weak early, that's your prerogative. I believe he is broken in this version, as evidenced by the fact he was nerfed in subsequent versions.

I can always play better, I agree. My point was I had to above 1100 elo players who did worse than me. Worse than a perennial 900 elo player. It happens alot to me, where the good players have these random off games. That was my point. For my elo level and ability, I should never be the best or top 2 on my team.

Do you even see best nick or super baller or zika or peggy or bobby or boldx or coto as top 1 or 2 ever? No. Yet i am in many games. That's my point. These random "bad" games people have for me is demoralizing and i believe not true variance.