lying about modes

[Drahque]

Why would I cover up anything? The fact is we didn't at any point make sure everyone was okay with hybrid.

Our team acted like shit, by playing a game that was -hpgmcb, prophet - where everyone have same builder and equal chances for rolls? It's not like 2 of us went merc, or did anything to make the game unfair.. And as you can see BA_fail only comes up with this bullshit because he lost the game:

you are correct, if we won I wouldn't post about it, but you guys wouldn't be able to do anything about it since you guys were the ones that didn't want to draw at the start.

But go ahead, and let "Mr. report all games I lose" get his right as usual. No wonder why he was rank 2 for a long time, when he tries to regain every elo lost he has the slightlest chance to. If you check achieve, he's the person who report single most games in the whole League. If you do act upon this situation, it would be on circumstantial reasonings.

If you checked the pre-start game chat and in-game chat, you would know that nobody mentioned hybrid until the mode was actually picked and at no point did everyone agree to it ..

P.S. do we really want this scenario to me miss-used in the future? The next time someone loses a game, he can just post on forums that he said he wanted to play -hp shadow in Lihl Channel 30 minutes earlier? And those dodging a loss? What kind of league would that be?

[supersexyy]

We're going in circles. Only post if you have new information, otherwise cheers and we'll make a decision soon.

[Furbolg.]

My biggest problem is that if East won that game, they would never care to post this. Which meens we basicly got freerolled for 45 mins

[Furbolg.]

Im pretty sure what their decision will be here. History has shown that 2 of the admins have personal vendettas against me and cant be objective in my cases. So bring it once more..

[Furbolg.]

You guys agreed ( it can be found on chat logs ) and therefore they signed.

All the bullshit you say afterwards to cover for your ill-mannered actions are making 0 sence.

You acted like shit ( all your team ) and you deserve more than a warning in my opinion ( especially because instead of apoligizing you try to cover your shit up ).

Tell me how I acted like shit?

[supersexyy]

12 hour unvouch for Achilles + Drahque

No ELO reversal will take place.

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[north_and_south_]

guys so much talk without a big deal

and dont anyone talk for me without me..i can speak about myself


the truth is that i didnt say yes or no to channel (i wanted to play game and i didnt want to hybrid but ba_fail and his friend wanted to play only with hybrid...so the point is that i agreed to that even if i didnt say anything,as i went to that game)

i was glad when furbolg pick wrong mode....and i didnt expect from other team to ask draw..it was a game...as you can see in chat i told them,we go hybrid on next (the bad think is that i had archers and if anyone had archers want to play of course that game...that dont mean that i didnt want toplay with anyother tower)

my answer as a friend to ba_fail :sorry i told you and before,but it wasnt a problem for you to play a non hybrid game

my answer with politic : i agreed to hybrid but i didnt say that if red make mistake that i am gonna draw

and my fun answer : baaaaaaaaaaaa i am swallowing your elo slut

P.S. you can also remove the elo that i won from that game too..

[Drahque]

Did 100% of the players agree to hybrid?

I don't understand the decision to punish us, when 100 % didn't agree and we never checked it after all.. And the big question is, why would we get unvouched for first offense?

To be honest, I don't really care much anymore - seems like Moderators are always with BA_Fail, at least if I check the last 100 games he reported, he always gets Elo penalty run through or adjusted Elo. But the fact is, he isn't much better himself, calling me bipolar and leaving games:
- viewtopic.php?f=85&t=12287

But yes, just punish me and achillesgr for playing a regular hpgmcb prophet game, where Furbolg "supposely" picked the wrong mode according to BA_Fails head, even tho he never checked if everyone was okay with it. He even stated himself, that he wouldn't report this game, if he had won - meaning he's just an Elo slut, lying in every opportunity he gets. It's okay, if he's this sad, I don't really care .. all I know is, that we did NEVER check if 100 % of the players did agree or not, those we weren't allowed to pick hybrid.

P.S. in order to make sure the punishment is fair, I'd like to see some proof that we ALL agreed to hpgm. Otherwise, we're being judged on circumstantial reasoning's, which a judge would never EVER do in real life.

[north_and_south_]

drahque we saw in chat that ba_fail wrote "i llplay only with hybrid mode" we didnt say anything and we went to the game so that make us agree

this is our fault

if you want to analise that.......red made a mistake we could play the game i.m.o.

the opposite team was pissed off i think nt cause losing that game but most cause they felt like losing their time cause they wanted to practise

its a misunderstanding...its 12 hours relax....many decisions are not correct and but they have to put them this way for the balance....

i know about administration...i am a captain in real life i made bad decisions for my pupil on purpose cause i wanted them to have more respect in another difficult problem!

so thats the way an admin can protect the spirit....i dont know about you but i will sleep tonight

[Drahque]

Okay, so another time I can just type in channel "I sign for hybrid" and then 5 minutes later, when the game is hosted, I act like nothing - I don't check if red is ready to pick hpgm and that everyone is okay with hybrid. Then ingame, if I don't like my rules, I ask for the game to be drawed, and if it doesn't and I lose, I go on forums and ask for the game to be voided. How riDONCOlus is that? Sorry, I just don't see the logic here.

I would also VERY much like a clearer rule on when it's okay to change a mode. Because I was 100 % convinced, that in order to do something against the rules, you have to MAKE SURE that everyone says YES or OKAY to it. At least that's how we did the 2 out of 300 games that I played hybrid, and in one game, where we decided to continue a game 2v3, we did make sure everyone agreed, so that nobody could report this game.

[supersexyy]

Elo is not being reversed so don't worry about that half.
You're being unvouched for acting against the spirit of the game.
Too much drama for no reason.

[BA_Fail]

But go ahead, and let "Mr. report all games I lose" get his right as usual. No wonder why he was rank 2 for a long time, when he tries to regain every elo lost he has the slightlest chance to. If you check achieve, he's the person who report single most games in the whole League. If you do act upon this situation, it would be on circumstantial reasonings.

False, you passed me in # of games reported as well as most other admins but they don't have to post about it so its not viewable to us. In fact, you reported that game against goats when he dced on lvl 1 and I said I wouldn't report it yet you did. And I only report games that we had an advantage, I didn't report about 6-7 games from last season but not like anybody cares.

P.S. do we really want this scenario to me miss-used in the future? The next time someone loses a game, he can just post on forums that he said he wanted to play -hp shadow in Lihl Channel 30 minutes earlier? And those dodging a loss? What kind of league would that be?

They are going based off the evidence in the game which shows that we wanted hybrid. chicken wanted to leave but I told him not to because I know for a fact you would post about the game and you would report us for dodging a game. We made the best of the situation we were in.

To be honest, I don't really care much anymore - seems like Moderators are always with BA_Fail, at least if I check the last 100 games he reported, he always gets Elo penalty run through or adjusted Elo. But the fact is, he isn't much better himself, calling me bipolar and leaving games:

Funny, moderators have been on your side almost every single time. This being the first time they aren't, but considering your punishment being so weak I'd still argue they're on your side.

But yes, just punish me and achillesgr for playing a regular hpgmcb prophet game, where Furbolg "supposely" picked the wrong mode according to BA_Fails head, even tho he never checked if everyone was okay with it. He even stated himself, that he wouldn't report this game, if he had won - meaning he's just an Elo slut, lying in every opportunity he gets. It's okay, if he's this sad, I don't really care .. all I know is, that we did NEVER check if 100 % of the players did agree or not, those we weren't allowed to pick hybrid.

Getting pretty close to flaming eh, unfortunately that doesn't hurt my feelings sorry. Where's mick when you need him to give a warning? I just want to have the elo that I deserve which is why I don't post games where someone dced while I was losing. And of course people in pubs know I don't care since I usually try going vs stacked teams for the challenge.

P.S. in order to make sure the punishment is fair, I'd like to see some proof that we ALL agreed to hpgm. Otherwise, we're being judged on circumstantial reasoning's, which a judge would never EVER do in real life.

You have no ethics it seems. You wasted 1 HOUR + the extra time from the drama here on forum, that we could of been practicing hybrid for in pubs, then you have the audacity to try to say there is no evidence when there clearly is. Seriously wtf, your actions messed with our time, and if we didn't sign you wouldn't of been able to even play 2s. So yet again, why wouldn't you guys draw and try to make a 2s if you guys knew we wanted hybrid and you guys wanted prophet?

[supersexyy]

Hey, only I'm allowed the last word here.

Locked.

[cyberpunk]

So I was about to join a pub game to practice for the tournament and I told furbolg I wouldn't sign so I can practice for it. So every1 agreed to do hybrid so I signed, when game started they put prophet and furbolg tried to draw cause of his mistake but rest of west team didn't draw. So need to know wtf is this, is there some sort of punishment for this, and at the very least I want the game to be void.

I read just this part.
IF you were using non lihl bots, the red can have a ban.