Arishok obviously TROLLING his teammates

[Drahque]

* GAME 1 (lihl79c):
I played a 3v3 with Arishok on my team, on level 1 he builds Goblin Alchemist + 3 land mines - Me and Izno ask why, and he says: "(02:01 / Allied) Arishok: coz lvl1" - meanwhile on lvl 2 building 4 more (a total of 7 land mines). Ending up leaking lvl 2 + 3 + 4 + 5 + 6 + 7 ... and selling all Land Mines as well. Wasting a LOT of gold, and ruining the game for his teammates...

I am sure, that such an experienced player as Arishok, should know, that you'd need 2x Goblin Alchemists to hold lvl 2, and that Land Mines doesn't work against warriors. It became even more obvious later on, when he refused to heal the king at level 20 (in a race), causing his team to lose. Even though we still had a chance to win, since I had lots of LoD alive that still had to spawn, and because the enemy team had leaked WAY more + MUCH earlier to their king, than us. The following game I'm referring to is:
- STATS: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1832339
- Replay: http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 832339.w3g


[spoiler=Game 2 (lihl78d) - This game can be skipped, since the report is focused on Game1]* GAME 2 (lihl78d):
After the first game Arishok had ruined for 5 people, we started another 3v3 game (lihl78d), in which I asked for solo lane, so that Arishok wouldn't be able to troll his team again that hard, but refused to even talk to me. Then I say: "Don't start yet" and that "Need to sort this out", and expected the game not to be started, because it's usually the spirit of the league, to ensure that EVERYONE is ready before the g ame starts. I know, that it's not a rule, but usually 98 out of 100 game, the host asks if everyone is ready, and if someone went AFK (let's say 2 minutes on toilet), we wait till the person is back. If the game is started while he's AFK, the game is usually drawn, if he misses the first 30-45 or more of the start, since he isn't able to wisp or have as much time to build, as everyone else have. So, in order to ensure this wouldn't happen, I left the game while fixing the unexpected thing that came up, and when I tried to join the game, I find out that it's ALrEDY started .. So even though I repeated several times to NOT start, he still started the game, causing players to be in a 2v3 game, that had to be drawed level 1 and thoose ruining a SECOND game.

I know that this is as much my fault as his, by leaving the game, but I didn't want it to end up like a game yesterday, in which the game was started before he was ready, and those wouldn't be there when the mode was picked - or at least not ready to build and make a wisp - which is the most important part of the game (round 1).
Anyways, that game shouldn't be compared to this, because something unexpected came up here, while yesterday it was expected. The 2v3 game that I'm referring to to is following:
- STATS: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1832359
- Replay: http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 832359.w3g[/spoiler]

* SUMMARY (tldr):
So whole TWO games in a row, Arishok ends up ruining. In first game he obviously is trolling his teammates, by making Land Mines and when we notice it, he decides to make MORE of them (trolling harder). Then on level 20 in a race, where we leaked LESS and LATER to king than the enemy team, he was controlling king (even though he had last heal) and worse of all, didn't even heal the king! Ending up losing the game for us, which he practically already had done with his 7 land mines lvl 2 ... Anyways, if this is not enough, then the next game (where he is host), he starts a game without his teammate being in it! Making it 2v3 and forced to be drawn.

I'd like to see some actions to be taken, at least on the first game, where Arishok (partly) team-kills, by building worse than he usually would, and refusing to heal the king on level 20. We all know, that the dinosaur Arishok, knows that land mines do NOT work vs. warriors, and that it's standard routine to make a 2nd alchemist on level 2. But he instead decides to build SEVEN land mines. Oh my God.. Is it acceptable to play/build like that in Lihl?

And I'd also like a clarification on when, a host is allowed to start, so that we in the future knows how to act/do.

[supersexyy]

A host can start as soon as players are spoofed and no player says that he is afk. Can't watch the replay at the moment so I cannot comment any further.

[dweiler]

I must honestly say I have seen some more weird actions from Arishok the last week..

To give an example: https://entgaming.net/findstats.php?id=1816047

Arishok was playing a bad game, as you can see by his comment:

(38:05 / Allied) Arishok: its another shitty game for me...

Achillesgr said very clearly he will heal at 40:09 (and achillesgr was red and arishok was teal), yet arishok double heals without saying anything. You would expect Arishok to say that he would heal if we suddenly let teal heal first. (And I had seen him double heal 2x more in the days before. I can search back if anyone wants me to). Right after we BARELY (1 hit on lvl 20) survive the level because of double heal Arishok says:

(44:25 / Allied) Arishok: now its just waste of time we cant win anyway

Also, Arishok has had a ban for teamkilling/not healing before: viewtopic.php?f=83&t=9234&hilit=arishok

[DonaldtheDuckie]

This is an unorthodox variation of the blasters build for sure, I dont think Arishok was trying to teamkill though, he just seems to be a fan of goblin land mines. I think we should let Arishok comment upon the game, we can all have bad ones after all.

[Arishok]

Let's summarize... I built 1 alch + 3 mines not 4 for lvl 1 (Your first lie). Just mines killed about 17 crabs, so if they sent warriors i could hold easy. Overall, I've built 5 mines not 7 (Your second lie). Sell 5 mines is huge lost gold... wow 25 gold... After lvl 3 you said "sell 2 please" and "and get alchemist" really good tip how to leak again 4 thx. I had leak lvl 6? (Your third lie). But all this is not important, because i was 7/2 and 1900 value after lvl 10. In 20 We couldn't kill all militias and archers so fast. They had 2 heals we had 1, if I healed, we lost anyway... And It wasn't on purpose, only bad luck I missclicked. That's about all a lying raging child.

[dweiler]

This is another game where Arishok double heals: http://atl.entgaming.net/replay/view_re ... 814280.w3g

3 "fail heals" in 3 days is really a lot in my opinion.

But I agree with Duckie, not much we can do about this at this moment, seemed to me to be just a poor choice of towers. This is a pledge to Arishok to stop failing heals, though. (At least) 3 in 3 days time is really too much and I will check to see if it doesn't happen more often from now on.

[DonaldtheDuckie]

Arishoks explanation shows that he did not intend any trolling, and was decent value and income after lvl 10. We can all make mistakes, misclicking heals are really unfortunate, but not punishable under the given rules.
If you want something to be done about missing heals, then think it over, and maybe we should introduce a penalty on missing heals.

Thread closed.

[dweiler]

His reply doesn't "show" it, just that we cannot prove it