Permanent bots

[Random260]

Oh. It is. 5 hostbot are hosting @ garena atm.

[teller55]

Oh. It is. 5 hostbot are hosting @ garena atm.

Then they aren't Ent's unless @uakf.b changed something very recently.

[uakf.b]

Pretty sure someone posted a suggestion to put bots on Garena.

[Yondaime]

I agree with the writer of this topic and on behalf of all the hosters. That ent shouldn't be allowed to autohost.

Supersexy. I am not suggestion remove ent hostbot all together.

Lol what? Your first sentence and the last one that I just quoted does not make sense one bit.

Why should ENT quit autohosting it goes perfectly fine, dota, nwu, legion td etc etc.

[supersexyy]

@yondaime He wants to remove autohost but allow regular hosting via the bots.

[WaterEnt]

Yes, there are ENT bots on garena, constantly hosting the same maps even if empty.

Why should ENT quit autohosting it goes perfectly fine, dota, nwu, legion td etc etc.

To put it tenderly, not everyone likes those maps. Moreover, it becomes monotone after months and years.

[Yondaime]

Cause dota is not the biggest game played in wc3. ent doesn't have a legion inhouseeague
if not everyone likes those games why do we host over 100 games on each bot everyday like legion or dota does. this is a bad suggestion imo

[WaterEnt]

How do you expect other maps to emerge if you keep forcing the same old relicts? That only happens if someone is ruthless enough to set up new autobots to promote them. The demand for those maps you speak of is partly artificially crafted like advertisements and brands do.

What are you saying with the 100 games? How can you know you had not slowly disgruntled the former players with that policy causing them to leave? And on what base can you assign that "success" to these maps? It's not like much of an alternate option remained for the broad user base than to go along with your system. Frankly, I see a lot of parallels to today's private television.

DotA has own channels, own networks, own games designed after it and you still need to funnel it?

[Yondaime]

Other maps to emerge. I am sorry but I think dota has new maps of dota come out every time. I am sorry but I have not seen one SINGLE suggestion for a map from you yet. You can host your own maps if you please, benefit of the autohost is so people do not need to host their own games and then also abusive people cannot do anything with autohost that is why most people play with autohost.

If you want to play a different map then you upload it onto the ent hosting and host it yourself, that is what everyone can do anyways. This suggestion is ridiculous and will not go anywhere we have ent)rand as others have said then also ent private hosting bots.

Archived.

[WaterEnt]

viewtopic.php?f=43&t=16006

The thread has been moved to Archive without further ado after Yondaime got to have the final word.

Should I evaluate that as getting censored on the behalf of a single mod in a quick reaction?

My thread was not a suggestions thread in the first place. It was moved there because the complaint was not recognized. If you cannot need it there either, since you cannot agree and it takes visibility over other suggestion threads, then move it to General Discussion, so I can at least continue the topic with the general audience.

[Yondaime]

No one could recognize what your complaint is so how are we supposed to know about it. Also nothing would happen if it is in the general discussion.

You are basically telling ent, an AUTO HOSTING GAME FORUM to stop autohosting. How in the world does that make sense. Also the player base is so low in WC3 why would we stop autohosting what brings us in the biggest crowd. You are thinking merely of a minority player base instead of the majority that ent autohosts, so yes I closed the topic because it was basically absurd of you to even suggest it. No one wants to take their time and host a map unless they really want to play it, hence we have ent.hosting which does not even get used all the time so why would we make all of our bots like such??

[WaterEnt]

No one could recognize what your complaint is so how are we supposed to know about it. Also nothing would happen if it is in the general discussion.

You have moved the thread yourself and indicated the action in 2nd reply, then applied local rules. There are no rule threads here btw which would tell me what belongs here/of which format it needs to be.

You are basically telling ent, an AUTO HOSTING GAME FORUM to stop autohosting. How in the world does that make sense.

I am here precisely because it is a contact point to auto hosting. Why would I post somewhere else where it does not matter? Are you telling me I have to live quietly with that plight you/other services have conjured? You are the first intervener here and think your system is in the right. Also, as we could confirm throughout the thread, this forum is not only about what I have criticized and we were talking about compromises/what could be done to the overall situation. I do not mind your disagreement but if you state your point, expect that I might counter with my arguments.

[Yondaime]

No need to expect you to counter with your arguments as nothing is going to happen. We have several bots already dedicated to private hosting where they have their own ban lists etc and when they hardly ever get used. Now you are suggesting or complaining that there are not enough of them?? I also just ran an ip search and name search, your ip has never showed up on any of our hosting so that tells me you have not even played a single game on ENT games at all, so who are you to say we should change things when you do not even play on our servers in the first place?

[WaterEnt]

That belongs in the other thread not here, and can be discussed without mowing down one another. I do not see the deal, why it is a problem to move the thread to General Discussion? Even if nothing happens, we can at least discuss the issue. Just because you disagree wholeheartedly does not mean it's the same for everyone. You could also see in the thread that at least another member saw similar problems. It's not like I would harass your forums to the point that I spam threads everywhere and sabotage everything. If it is as you say, I will get on the there user's bad side soon enough.

For now, good night

[Yondaime]

Why would you even post such nonsense in the first place when you are not even playing on our bots, that is the issue here. Also you first post it as a complaint when there was nothing to complain about it in the first place, so I moved it to suggestions where you also made hardly and if any progress to what you truly want.

Your telling us that ENT should not autohost, that does not bode well with any of us. If we did not have autohost then there would be 0 point for moderators because everyone else would have their own rules and such which most people would not want, I also feel that it would just lead to abuse and game ruining basically in any game if the host of that game was not winning. At ENT we make fair rules that the majority of the gaming community agree with.