Can't get my original stats to my main account.

[WTphoo]

What's the difference in hitting the logout button, type in the new username and password and Logon button vs. minimizing wc3, logging onto the forum, going to ENT Link, going to Stats Manager, selecting both usernames, and clicking Swap Stats?

I also explained that we don't have the same tool available to us because the Stats Swap was created when the Stats Manager was. We don't have that tool on our end. I would have to Merge your stats with your "friends" and give you the better ELO. That wouldn't be accurate either.

Why should I have to? There's a big difference, it's time consuming. We would have to log out, type in the other username, password. Go to the channel again, etc when I SIMPLY can just hit ALT TAB and click my tab and just hit swap/transfer. A few clicks it's that simple. LOL if it's not quite obvious between a former DOTA player and a LOL player, who's gonna have the better stats? If you're fucking pro and play Dota for a few nights and end up with a result of 100/0 W/L. OR does that not make any sense to you?

[WTphoo]

Actually if I could chime in on this. I think it's quite fair. You see in a hero arena game I moderate, I had infernal fists and rockets banned because 2-3 people abused them and cheated the game to the point of ruining it majorly. Obviously you don't understand because you don't have to enforce any rules but if one or more people abuse the stats system then that could possibly set a precedent for more people to abuse it. You only say what you think is not fair but you're not looking at the larger picture here. It may not seem fair to you but in our minds we've had abuse and we're trying to prevent it. Nobody is insinuating that you abused anything but like I said, in my game people ruined infernal fists for everyone else and I don't see why the same precedent wouldn't apply here.

You can argue with me until you're blue in the face but in my mind I've made my point.

Well in that case, maybe those users should of been banned for those disadvantage correct? Instead of having it taken away from the rest of fair players. All because I DON'T have to ENFORCE ANY RULES doesn't mean I don't understand. Remember, I DO TOO like a fair and enjoyable game. It's simple for the LARGER picture here. Since infernal fists and rockets have been banned from the gaming, what makes it fair to the non-abusers? Why don't you guys just ban the ABUSERS? NOT only do you lose a lot of players of ent community or having them to go play on a different service from removing a mod of the game. You have questioned their thoughts of ent being unfair for taking away their enjoyment of a game and being punished of somebody's mistakes.

[teller55]

Makes plenty of sense. However, that was not the intended purpose of the tool, as you have stated in your other post. The purpose of the tool was to move your stats to a new account for you to stay at, not use the tool to share accounts with friends. Even if you weren't abusing it for gain, it wasn't being used for it's intended purpose. Thus it shouldn't surprise you (since you acknowledge in the previous thread that you realize that the intended purpose isn't to be used several times a day to continually transfer stats,) that the tool is currently disabled.

I'm sorry, but that is what is going to happen for the time being, for all I know this could only be a couple hours or it could be indefinitely, if it's indefinitely, we'll do something about your stats.

[karasu.]

It takes too much time to judge abuse, I'd rather just make a rule to ban them. I don't really feel like sitting down for hours on end watching replays, I have a life too.

[WTphoo]

You make a valid point about the possible fix to the system, that suggestion has already been made. However that takes time to implement.

It should of been added when it was first established. Well until the time being until til the system is re-established and now that's there a solution to this error, perhaps you guys should review my stats and see if I abused or just simply give me my accurate stats so this can all be over with and we can enjoy the rest of our nights. Cause this isn't good to end. I can continue and converse all night long and we can go back at it.

[teller55]

We aren't going to lose users over temporary disabling an inherently abusive tool until we can get things sorted out. And if we do, we don't want those kinds of users because they are likely the ones abusing it.

[teller55]

Sure it can, if you continue to spam the forum, there are ways to prevent that. If you want to make this a huge deal WT, go ahead and I'll throw my weight around (and trust me, I've got a lot of weight to throw around )

I've been as fair as I can be, if you don't see that, it isn't my problem. I told you the issue, deal with it, or continue to whine.

[WTphoo]

Makes plenty of sense. However, that was not the intended purpose of the tool, as you have stated in your other post. The purpose of the tool was to move your stats to a new account for you to stay at, not use the tool to share accounts with friends. Even if you weren't abusing it for gain, it wasn't being used for it's intended purpose. Thus it shouldn't surprise you (since you acknowledge in the previous thread that you realize that the intended purpose isn't to be used several times a day to continually transfer stats,) that the tool is currently disabled.

I'm sorry, but that is what is going to happen for the time being, for all I know this could only be a couple hours or it could be indefinitely, if it's indefinitely, we'll do something about your stats.

Okay, I apologize for taking advantage of the tool for a different purpose. It was just less time consuming and more reasonable as I stated before and I didn't know any ideas of the system being taken advantage of and abused for stats. Otherwise, if I knew that this was going to happen, I would of just take the long way around rather than the easier. But I didn't, so as for this. It's still an unfair situation to me, cause knowing that account is what, let's say 0-10? Not sure, that means people in dota are going to dodge playing with me and therefore I'm going to have to play against stacked team, also being vk because of my sd, and waiting longer for games to start due to this cause. I know this because it's been happening to my friend every time he plays.

It takes too much time to judge abuse, I'd rather just make a rule to ban them. I don't really feel like sitting down for hours on end watching replays, I have a life too.

Well that's what you signed up for when you first applied, taking time out of your life.

We aren't going to lose users over temporary disabling an inherently abusive tool until we can get things sorted out. And if we do, we don't want those kinds of users because they are likely the ones abusing it.

Very true, but you can't judge someone's play since they want the tool enable, you wouldn't know their intentions whether if it's just wanting the tool because they enjoy it or because they want to abuse it. That's like saying all because my user name is wtphoo or karasu we're most likely to be a certain ethnicity.

[teller55]

But it is true, karasu means crow in Japanese and karasu. is a hick from Georgia, they do equal.

"enjoy it" isn't a reason for this tool either, it is for transferring your stats to another account because you no longer want to use your "old" account anymore. So both "enjoy it" and "abuse it" are abusing the tool.

[WTphoo]

Sure it can, if you continue to spam the forum, there are ways to prevent that. If you want to make this a huge deal WT, go ahead and I'll throw my weight around (and trust me, I've got a lot of weight to throw around )

I've been as fair as I can be, if you don't see that, it isn't my problem. I told you the issue, deal with it, or continue to whine.

Many ways, but simply as a few clicks and closing the forum/post. Remember, I'm a former mod so I know how easy it is to close a forum/post. All i wanted was my stats swapped to my original and as for this it was completely unnecessary from you telling me to go to the forums and make a post about if you we're simply going to deny and told me as you did through PMS. Til then I still don't think this is a right call.

[teller55]

I hadn't made me decision yet, which is why I said make a post about it and I'd take a look at it. Other things arose that I examined as well in this decision.

And at this: "Remember, I'm a former mod" I try really hard to remember that time WT, but from the last few weeks of posts, it makes it really really hard to try and remember back to that time.

[WTphoo]

But it is true, karasu means crow in Japanese and karasu. is a hick from Georgia, they do equal.

"enjoy it" isn't a reason for this tool either, it is for transferring your stats to another account because you no longer want to use your "old" account anymore. So both "enjoy it" and "abuse it" are abusing the tool.

Well you've probably known that, but as I was making a point, all because his username is Japanese doesn't necessary mean he's Japanese, that's judging a book by it's cover. For all you know he could be a wanted rapist who's ethnicity is white and from Korea.

My meaning between enjoy it and abuse it.
Enjoy it, simply liking the features of the mod or tool without any disadvantages.
Abuse it, simply taking an unfair advantage of it.

[WTphoo]

I hadn't made me decision yet, which is why I said make a post about it and I'd take a look at it. Other things arose that I examined as well in this decision.

And at this: "Remember, I'm a former mod" I try really hard to remember that time WT, but from the last few weeks of posts, it makes it really really hard to try and remember back to that time.

Well I still find it completely pointless for having me post this up. All I wanted was my stats and to simply play on battle.net as I wanted, but nope. I have to play on my other name on ENT Connect where I can't converse with any of my friends.

Well remember, I'm a former mod due to my raging in games which is completely natural for everyone to do in games, and because of my raging it has arose complaints about me in games. Luckily I don't play tiny a lot, otherwise everyone would be tossed around. And that is why I have not yet to re-applied because til that day to this day, I still rage which I know it's going to continue. So being a mod again can wait until somehow that magically disappears.

[karasu.]

Actually, quite to the contrary. I became a game moderator under a certain technicality. I was asked to apply by Uak. I don't have to be severely active, just reasonably active to do hero arena brq's because nobody else at the time knew how to judge them at the time. In truth becoming a mod was the only way to get my rules accepted.

[coldfire786]

Maybe make a cool down on system like 5-7 days per transfer