Complaint against mod Lihldiabloduck

[Yondaime]

Then please present me with the chatlogs so that I may review the entire situation though. I go over every detail to provide a justified decision when I look at both sides. Staying to one side which mainly is your is complete biasness, the moderators downfall, now granted it is hard sometimes to do that I am just merely stating that. Overall, the chat logs will be the one to decide who was right and who was wrong here.

[Diablo_]

Well I guess it's quite easy to sum up.
By rules Donald was right.
By sportmanship/manners and what not the other players were in right and honestly in a league like LIHL I would expect such a story not to happen and why a Mod would refuse to play 4vs4 when there are enough people online and apparently everyone but him wanted to do so is beyond me.

[DonaldtheDuckie]

You are asking the wrong man for the logs.

[DonaldtheDuckie]

Well I guess it's quite easy to sum up.
By rules Donald was right.
By sportmanship/manners and what not the other players were in right and honestly in a league like LIHL I would expect such a story not to happen and why a Mod would refuse to play 4vs4 when there are enough people online and apparently everyone but him wanted to do so is beyond me.

Lol so now I am the bad guy cause I did not want 2 people to get left out? I am in the right by the rules and in sportsmanship. We were 10 people. If we went 4s, that meant 2 people would sit out for a full 4s game. That is a long time. How can you even say that diablo_ That saddens me deeply ;(

[Patarinsky]

I agree that I broke the rules by unhosting, but we always agreed to unhost a smaller game to make a bigger one so more people participate and all the times I have unhosted games it has been for that reason. So I was warned, then a message was written especially as a humiliation so everyone could see it, then I get unvouched because I merely wanted to play and all others to play to have fun which should be the ultimate goal. As to if second game was possible I am still not sure so best option was to go 4s and get 8 out of maybe max 9 play... when duck doesnt wanna go 4s there could have been BA to take his place. I feel really insulted and I am not sure if I want to continue participating in this league if such things will happen again in future- humiliation from a moderator who stood up against the opinion of all other active players at that point. Duck I am not sure why you are so power thirsty but that is not the way to communicate with people...

[BA_Fail]

Patarinsky shouldn't be banned for this. And as for the rules, most of the people in the league are mature enough to decide what is right and what is wrong. Most of these rules aren't really helping out the lihl, unless its something like using anti stuck on creeps. These punishments should be reserved for those people that are doing it for selfish reasons.

And I'm not sure what duck said in lobby or what patarinsky knew, but there were 10 people willing to play. I assume it was just bad communication, but anyways the majority of players agreed to remaking and most people would do the same in a situation like that

[DonaldtheDuckie]

I agree that I broke the rules by unhosting but we always agreed to unhost a smaller game to make a bigger one so more people participate and all the times I have unhosted games it has been for that reason.

This game there were 10 people. If you unhost a 3man to go 4s, that leaves 2 people out for mb over an hour. 4v4 games can take a long time. Why is it more fair to have 8/10 people play cause some of those people prefer 4v4 instead of 10/10 people playing? And why am I the bad guy for asking you to let 10/10 people play, and why am I the bad guy for being a mod who asks his fellow co lihlers to follow the rules...

So I was warned, then a message was written especially as a humiliation so everyone could see it,

I did not make the greet message, that was made by some other lihl admins who obviously felt you needed it to stop unhosting in violation of the rule: Do not unhost without full consent from all signed players in the hosted game.

Duck I am not sure why you are so power thirsty but that is not the way to communicate with people...

You are calling me power thirsty, and trying to make me into the person behaving out of sorts here, whilst it in fact is YOU sir, who fails to follow the rules, and prefer to play with 8/10 people instead of 10/10 people. That is not following the rules, and poor sportsmanship.

[supersexyy]

Patarinsky revouched for now.

[Patarinsky]

If it was sure that we had 10 people in total I agree 3s and 2s was better but the other 2 feor and drahque were not signing for the 2s anyway but would have for the 4s. It was fact that all of us wanted to unhost then see how many we have so I did unhost it. I could participate in 2s you in 3s and so on and on and all would be happy. You were the only one that did not want to unhost and giving orders like some dictator. So it seems for me it would be better to start the game thus having 5-6 bad eyes on me but 1 big smile from you Duck but I would keep this privillege that I can play. You said you would unvouch me so you did.. ok, but you have to admit this is not a military school or some correctional facility, it is a community of people who share an interest in a particular game with a sole purpose of having the fun of the challenge. It really should be that simple and not punish when your will is not fulfilled. It is just insulting. Also I hope people who read this will attest that I have always tried to get all people playing, start games, call for afk players and so on and so on, have never dodged by unhosting just on the contrary I want more people to play and not be left out. Just admit it Duck it is not shameful, pride is good but when your are not right it is better to say: Ye people lets all play have fun and stop this ....

thanks sexy

[marsol]

Ya, nice sexy good you vouched Pata, we all agreed to unhost in this game but Duck did not wanna. You all know Pata is my friend but still he did not do wrong unhost. Duck not cool man

[Diablo_]

If there really were 10 players willing to play Duck hasn't done anything wrong tho.

[supersexyy]

I like to keep my points short so:

1. Miscommunication can occur with this kind of thing, I can't comment for certain on who is right regarding starting/rehosting for 4s but rehosting for a larger game (with acknowledgement from in game players) is the general way to go about things. What I do know is that this is not worthy of an unvouch.
2. Greet messages are done by me. I believe pata was unhosting for martiny however this is a different, unrelated issue. I thought the public humiliation route was a fairer and 'funner' punishment.
3. I would prefer if admins/mods were invisible unless absolutely necessary. I dont believe duck should be threatening players, it isn't good for the league.

[Iznogood]

If there really were 10 players willing to play Duck hasn't done anything wrong tho.

clearly wasn't the case according to game times:
https://entgaming.net/customstats/lihl/games/

lihl65l PUB 37m45s 04/10/2013, 11:04
lihl99o PUB 15m06s 04/10/2013, 11:40
lihl84q PUB 37m55s 04/10/2013, 12:32

[willie64]

Lets get some things straight, you have a complaing vs player ducky; not as a moderator. He didnt abuse his moderator abilities in what so ever way.

Now I wasnt there, so I cant and will not judge but there are 2 scenario`s.

Ducky knew about the situation 3v3 abort, 4v4 not enough and steal 3v3 slot from old people -- Being a jerk
Ducky did not know about the situation as above mentioned and saw a game pop up and joined -- though luck for you

2 options, pick 1; if its the above its lame.. I`ve had the same situation happen to me before. Its not against the rules but its being a big douche. But dont make a big drama when the 2 options are so easely clear what happened.

[Feor]

Lets get some things straight, you have a complaing vs player ducky; not as a moderator. He didnt abuse his moderator abilities in what so ever way.

Now I wasnt there, so I cant and will not judge but there are 2 scenario`s.

Ducky knew about the situation 3v3 abort, 4v4 not enough and steal 3v3 slot from old people -- Being a jerk
Ducky did not know about the situation as above mentioned and saw a game pop up and joined -- though luck for you

You missed the part the we tried to explain what happened but he didn't care.
You also missed the part he threatened with unvouch Drahque and Patarinsky. ( At least I saw it as threatening, given the word choice and tone. ).