eldryan wrote:I know feor prefers 4v4, and other players don't. a lot of the time, people 4v4 and exclude 2 players instead of 3v3 and 2v2 which would include everyone (as seems the case here tbh).
That wasn't the scenario here, at the moment we did !start4, there were only 5 people who signed and when we did !start 3, there were 7 or 8 people who did !sign. Rest were AFK. Stop commenting on a situation when you weren't there, obviously there wasn't enough for another game, as Iznogood have shown. On top of that, BA_Fail+Pyc had been AFK for hours, and how should we know they were suddenly back, when we had been in a lobby chat for 15 minutes? First about 9 minutes into the discussion in the lobby chat, did Duck mention BA_fail, but then again that only make 9 players.
Also noone of this happened because Feor anyone preferred 4v4, but because everyone WANTED everyone to be able to PLAY. Not that 2 or 3 people has to sit out, just because Duck preferred 3v3. The thing is, after double build have been banned, there is not much of a difference between 3s and 4s anymore. Personally I don't care about playing 2s, 3s or 4s anymore - since we are all alone after all. But we as a League, should care that as many as possible can play. But in this case, Duck did not give a flying fuck about the 2 people who had to sit out, just because he didn't want to sign for the 4v4. That is extremely lousy. No discussion needed here.
[spoiler=Summary of what happened - for those who weren't there (IMPORTANT)]a) !start 3, where 6 people signed.
b) After the 6 people joined the 3v3, we were told that Duck logged on and decided we wanted to try 4v4, so that he and Faith could play as well (NOTICE: we did this because we DO care that as many as possible can play).
c) !start 4, only 5 people signed.
d) !unsign, because people didn't wanna wait any-longer.
e) !start 3, at this moment, 8 people withing a second or two did !sign.
f) 8 people immediately joined the game, asked for a !unhost because obviously we had 8 people who wanted to join. But no, Duck did not wanna play 4v4, which people got mad over because we had just unhosted so that he could play!
g) Here a 15 minute discussion started, where EVERYONE tried to convince Duck what had just happened, but he didn't believe us and said it was bullshit, that he did not "steal" any spots or ninja-sign or anything like that and that he wanted to play 3s instead of 4s. Obviously nobody except Duck wanted to play, ending up in 2 people leaving the game (so that Patarinsky couldn't !start).[/spoiler]
@Yondaime or any moderator, I really hope you'll take a look at the chats and see how rude Duck behaved. Punishing Patarinsky for something that was out of his control, he is not allowed to start a game where only 4 out of 6 is in the game and where obviously nobody wanted to play. Duck threatened several people and behaved in a very rude way of a moderator, caring more about himself than what everyone else wanted.