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Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie admin

Postby Patarinsky » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:18 pm

Hi, I want to file a complaint against Donaldtheduckie admin with whom we had some argument regarding the lihl league. As result he unvouched me from playing but after careful review of the facts supersexyy admin decided that was not correct and vouched me back. Now I am playing and suddenly for no reason duckie unvouched me again. Can you please look into this as he is abusing his admin power. I want to add links as to what happened before but I cannot find the theme it seems as it has been removed or maybe supersexyy can help me out

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Postby aRt)Y » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:21 pm

When exactly were you re-unvouched?
Because all actions should have been undone. viewtopic.php?f=31&t=17705#p82848
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Re: Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie a

Postby supersexyy » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:27 pm

Duckie shouldn't be unvouching people behind our backs... I'm getting really sick of this childish behaviour.


Patarinsky to be revouched: viewtopic.php?f=85&t=17359
As confirmed by Arty: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=17705#p82848

Patarinsky revouched again...
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Postby aRt)Y » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:58 pm

I was actually wondering about if you already re-vouched him and he unvouched it again or if you hadn't done it, yet.
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Re: Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie a

Postby supersexyy » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:02 pm

I revouched him as I said in the post, then Duckie undid it. Now he has been revouched again.
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Postby aRt)Y » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:08 pm

@DonaldtheDuckie Wanna comment that?
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Re: Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie a

Postby Feor » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:15 pm

supersexyy wrote:I revouched him as I said in the post, then Duckie undid it. Now he has been revouched again.



That was part also of my latest complaint, along with his efforts to hide the posts. Issues that were not answered / pursued.

There are a lot of people who do not have a high opinion of duckie as a moderator within the lihl community and feel he is not fit for the position.

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Re: Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie a

Postby marsol » Fri Oct 11, 2013 7:19 pm

I feel that duckie is not fair also and he is abusing his power as administrator and should not be in this position

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Re: Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie a

Postby Drahque » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:26 pm

Seriously when is enough ENOUGH? Do we have to make 1 complaint daily, or when do you finally open your eyes and see all the evidence spread around the forums of abuse abuse and abuse. Here's a short list of things he do:

  • Abusing moderator for his own good (E/C)
  • Going against the spirit of the League (F/C)
  • Preferring his own beliefs over everyone (F)
  • Ignoring what 3 out of 4 Lihl-mods said (C)
  • Ignoring what 17 out of 18 Lihl-players said (C)
  • Hiding complaints/topics from the public (C)
  • Deleting posts against him / he doesn't like (C)
  • Continuously un-vouching people over and over (G)
  • I could add more ... (E)

Not to mention that this isn't the first time Duck is using his admin powers for his own good, there's been several report/complaints where he doesn't seem to care what the community beliefs:


Here's an example of Duck's very rude attitude toward players of the League:
[ILOCOS_NORTE]: abuuuse
[lihldiabloduck]: fuck u
[supersexyy]: what is up your ass
[ILOCOS_NORTE]: he can talk
[lihldiabloduck]: thats whats up ur ass
[lihldiabloduck]: now get lost u fuckin hippocryte

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Re: Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie a

Postby dark_magician » Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:35 pm

Thought I'd add in an opinion. Some parts might a little off topic, but I think it's still very much relevant.
Just to throw it out there, not sure if any one else's eye brows are raised that there aren't any complaints about other lihl mods? (Ok, maybe there were one or two against an ex-lihl mod by memory - but from what I understood, not all that many had a problem with him... but he is an ex-mod never the less).

With all complaints from players about lihl mods mainly directed at the one mod, doesn't it seem something just isn't right? Don't see any complaints about Mick or Sexy (excluding duckie's complaint against sexy) for example, who have both been mods for longer and are generally more active. Ditto for iightfyre or beep (who are have been MIA lately).

I think I was one of the earlier people that joined lihl and thought that throughout, most mods have done a good job keeping the wheels turning - ie. being in touch with the lihl community, acting in the best interests of players, have a good relationship with most players... and generally doing what's best for the league. Not obtaining the mod position for selfish desires. In life, you can't please every one, but you can try to act for the greater good.

Can't see how the original decision to ban patarinsky was a justified decision, since patar was the one trying to act in the best interests of other players - for the greater good. Misunderstanding or not, I believe it's the thought that counted. The issue was resolved, but the point I'm trying to make is - should a lihl mod not have recognized that his actions were the cause of the problem in the first place?

By "sniping" a spot (referring to viewtopic.php?f=83&t=17360), most players should probably agree, that the actions were i'll-mannered, immoral. And if one perceives manners/morals differently from the majority of others, is that person really suitable to be a (lihl) mod? (Irrespective of what sort of qualifications they have).

This incident is only the one example. If we were to track back through all complaints about duckie, or even track back through his posts - I didn't think it should be too hard to see a pattern in that manipulative behavior... not that any one has all the time in the world to do that. Though that 'biased poll' thread comes to mind as a standout.

Any way, this incident wasn't the first complaint about donaldtheduckie, and as long as he's a mod, I'll bet it won't be the last. Not the best representation for ENT in my opinion.

Hope this post doesn't get deleted :)

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Re: Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie a

Postby EdgeOfChaos » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:52 pm

@dark_magician just a note, lihl and game mods have no power in Complaints, so he can't delete your posts here (at least not that I'm aware of)

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Re: Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie a

Postby Krayyzie » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:40 am

I would have to say im quite suprised nothing happens...as there was a 50 post thread with Clear evidence @ end of season 1 when he also abused in several ways, followed by several other complaints(Cant find it atm, but if I remember right some mod moved it to another forum)

May I ask whats the whole idea about moderators? In Lihl there is a handful of moderators, more or less all of them are openly minded, and overall do what they can to make it a good place to play on.
Then there is one, big ego powerabuser, who makes his actions based on increasing his ego and showing he got power.
Drahque kind of summarized it well by showing 7 different threads that probably shows atleast 10-15
And the problem with that is...those are just a few of the abuses he did( Alot of players doesnt report when they run into it, and others just dont care)
Besides, if there was 10 big complaints on the same mod and none or maybe 1 complaints on other mods, isnt it quite obvious?
I was told 2 months ago mods were going to look into this case, and I was going to be told what they found out after looking into it, yet I got no message about it
Now 2 months later and several big abuses and Alot of small ones added, isnt it time for some action?

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Re: Complaint against being unvouched from Donaldtheduckie a

Postby aRt)Y » Sat Oct 12, 2013 10:31 am

Locked since no on can wait until a red said something.
The current evidence is ten times clearer than the whole cases before, so please spare me that.
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