New rule poll - no AS no DB no CB

[iightfyre]

So I am curious how the LIHL community feels after a few weeks of these rules being implemented.

My opinion is that I do not like the new rules and it has made me move back to pubs more than lihl. I like double building, I like cross building. IMO it takes skill to play these strategies and it makes games more interesting.

Your thoughts?

[dweiler]

Agreed, it makes the LIHL more static and more boring. Every 2nd game ends in a lvl 17 game in 4v4/3v3. In the old rules there was much more variation: 2v2, no db/as/cross, 3v3 half/half, 4v4 db/as/cross.

I could see how no AS could benefit 4v4 games, the rest I'm not so crazy about

[supersexyy]

Positives of new rules:

1. More 'relaxing'
2. Everyone can play their own game - with double building one player will often 'lead'.
3. Easier for new players to integrate

Negatives:
1. Nearly all games finish levels 17-20, with the vast majority ending 17.
2. Less need for teamwork
3. Less skillful
4. 'Boring' - less exciting and dynamic games

I'm quite outspoken in support of the old rules in general, but I do see the positives of the new rules.

[Drahque]

1. Nearly all games finish levels 17-20, with the vast majority ending 17.

That's not true, u don't recall a single game ending lvl 17 yesterday. People have adapted, so now it's rare anyone dies 17 - since everyone makes anti-17 pretty much.

[Krayyzie]

Well, I see where Sexy and Iight are coming from, because every game ended lvl 17 at start when did they alot of lihl games with those rules, but as I said since beginning of this rule changing.
Only reason the games end on 17 is because Every single player is addicted to 17, and of course if you are, and save from lvl 7 or 10, of course there is a big chance it ends on 17, just as if you save straight from 12 to 20, Most games would actually end on 20

However last week in lihl has been a big change, and I think alot of people realised this fact is Not true. People have been sending alot more on 12,13,14,16 and therefor they Can handle 17, and when u can handle 17, u can easily handle 20 due to very high value

As you can see Im very positive to the new rules, and Im still waiting for people to adept even more to them, as there are alot of new ways to play as a team in those rules, compared to earlier...but it takes time, the last week showen that it is progressing tho

Besides, a side note, its actually quite fun that not every game ends lvl 31

[eldryan]

I don't like anti stuck or CB, but DB imo should be allowed (at least exchanging auras).

[BA_Fail]

Most people are already used to playing solo, and prefer it. Although, I do want to be able to play games with double build, mainly in 3v3 as that gives both the solo builder and a double builder which IMO makes it very interesting. It would be easier to be able to put the rules to how they used to be, allowing double build and cross building, BUT with the option of allowing players to vote whether they want everybody to play solo. I believe having a variety of games will make it more interesting.

[Iznogood]

I know supersexyy is against this suggestion. However I still like the idea of using the lihl game name to decide if the game should be played in "solo" mode or "team" mode.
It's quite simple, odd numbers like lihl45u could be a "team" game and even numbers like lihl22k could be "solo".
I can see that it cons that it might be a little confusing to start with, but also a really Big + for the variation in the games. Not to mention a crowd pleaser as I can see how even this poll is ATM.

[Iznogood]

Alright. This poll have been active for almost 3 weeks and unless it will change dramatically I suggest we try a mix of solo and double building since the poll is so even.

I posted my suggestion above. And I've heard a suggestion where red should be allowed to pick modes.
Would be nice with some inputs on how game modes should be decided.

[Drahque]

Would be nice with some inputs on how game modes should be decided.

The easiest solution, is that 1-49 = DB/CB and 50-99 SB.

But really .. we should just allow DB/CB in 4v4, because 4v4 is really the one thats broken at the current moment. Often 3s and 2s gets 20+, but 4s ends lvl 17 or 20 in 97 out of 100 games.

[GoatsBeGone]

Just do as draqhue says allow double and cross in 4s, simple solution

[Drahque]

Just do as draqhue says allow double and cross in 4s, simple solution

I made a new topic with a poll about it: viewtopic.php?f=72&t=19648

So, people are welcome to move the discussion over there or share their opinions on the idea. At least I think it's a good way to solve the current problem with 4s. If anyone got better solutions, they're welcome to post it on there also.