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[TUBBYzieKiNG]

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First to say: no offense to ss or any other mods, theyre just doing their job in a correct way.
I think if i remember correctly i joined somewhere halfway season 1; immediately i loved it, nice community, competative players, lots of new stuff to learn. Season 2: started great but by the end i saw the general mindstate changing. Season 3:.. 2/3 players from season 1 have already quit somewhere start/midway season 2 (smart choice), of course, we dont wont our league to die cuz inactivity so we basically vouch any guy applying if just a single guy in the league vouches for him.. I mean we had 3 people vouching for GOG-MAGOG yesterday... GOG-MAGOG!!!!!!... those who know the guy will know what im talking about. If it was up to me unvouch the ones that vouched for him just for not giving a fuck about the league theyre in, just wanna get him in cuz hes a "friend"..
Im not posting all this drama for no reason, an IRL friend of mine have been climbing up the ladder in Squadron TD (starcraft 2) basically 100% same principle as legion but a bit more complexity. Reason im moving on is this community is actually determined by skill lvl + enough active players so need to take in the garbage to fill some space.. LIHL is just all about friend politics... Been thinking of making this gap for a week or 2 but just cause another ant dragged in by his vouched friend did alot of effort to get me unvouched for 24 pathetic hours, is just the cherry that tops the pie

Seriously no offense to any players directly or any admins, but this league is only going downhill from now and i doubt it will ever stop


PEACE

[bit]

There's no logs from unhosted games, if you believe your unvouch was unjustified, you can explain your side to mods. Supersexyy handled your unvouch, did he talk to you? In all of respect to Diablo_, for me, just words are not enough. I'm against hasty unvouches without rock solid evidence.

[TUBBYzieKiNG]

The unvouch part was correct, unosting is against the rules, this why i said no discrespect to ss or any admins. I accept my unvouch.
The drop that flooded the bucket is how Krumme actually takes the time to post this stuff while the reason i unhosted is because he acted like a sloth high on acid in lobby 2v2 (my team) i make a normal suggestion for a hybrid game i also said if ANYONE doesnt like hybrid we just go proph, all agreed, krumme says "meh" I ask krumme 10+ times if he ok with it, since hes my team then he (i think) fakes afk for a few mins, after few mins he says "whatever'.
in 2v2 the way to win is having a steady ambitious ally, he shouldnt have signed in the first place. Especially if he had the guts to to call his allys noob the game before. (someone placed bottom on bot list shouldnt have the authority to call anyone noob..)

I honestly like the effort you do Bit, and the other admins but its the community thats fucked. Its like a shepherd with a bad flock.
Anyway, i hope the best for this community i loved playing in it.

gl hf

[TUBBYzieKiNG]

Forgot to mention: he told me today he HATES hybrid yet agrees. It was our loss before game started
AMBITION FOR FUCK SAKE

[bit]

Everyone should realise that if something starts to go wrong, actions like RQ from game or unhosting, instead of RAPORTING the problem on forum, is a worse deal. Sometimes players are beyond childish themselves, as like when thinking "i'm not some rat to report a problem to mods, everyone will think bad of me, i'll better do some shit too". It's clearly works against the good spirit. It's like in pub, "oh he's saying crap about my build, i'll not heal or sell towers". not worth anyone's time. I really don't like to ban players if they was really hardly provoced before TK, but i have to. Anyway, glad to see you realise why your unvouch is correct, because common sense should prevail, and if there's a concrete problem with a player, it's common sense to question his behaviour and presense, instead of increasing drama.

[TUBBYzieKiNG]

Everyone should realise that if something starts to go wrong, actions like RQ from game or unhosting, instead of RAPORTING the problem on forum, is a worse deal.

RQ was the point i was trying to prevail, i know unhosting is against the rules but the way he was acting i really didnt feel like carrying and pushing the bottom player when hes in a careless mood. Understandable i think

Sometimes players are beyond childish themselves, as like when thinking "i'm not some rat to report a problem to mods, everyone will think bad of me, i'll better do some shit too". It's clearly works against the good spirit.

At my job my function is also based to inform the boss about the newer colleagues and how they work, efficiency/prestations
so this is really not my point. In case an colleague thinks im a bad manager he has the right to talk to the big boss also.
If for an example Diablo_ made the report or anyone from the other team, dunno who was there i would silently accept it. (again unvouch is correct) but the fact Krumme. did the report while he knows i unhosted because he was acting like a dick the game before and i knew he would be more of an dick this game is just lack of charisma, which been increasing at a wtf rate at the past weeks

[Krumme]

Not having faith in my playing is a dodge - and if you don't have faith in me caring about every game I play is just a sign that you haven't been on skype with me during a game - if you had a little faith in me we would have won that game most likely - I wanted to see Avalance01 (the new guy) in action and hybrid is a good way to show how he thinks except of just playing prophet like he will do for the next 100 games
If you don't have faith in whoever you get teamed up with I agree you shouldn't be in lihl since that is lack of trust in your co-players

btw. I never have personal grudge against no one - and I don't take things that happens in past games with me to the next games since every game is different and I always have faith in my team to stand a chance
But please show me what you mean from the past game - but double healing didn't make me happier the game before, but you having a grudge on me for "being a dick" the game before is simply just stupid since I try not to be - but had to say something when 2 people double heal when the healing order was quite clear

[TUBBYzieKiNG]

If you don't have faith in whoever you get teamed up with I agree you shouldn't be in lihl since that is lack of trust in your co-players

There was a 3s and a 2s going on, the reason why you wanted to play the 2s is: "you have to rely less on your allys, too many fuck ups in 4v4" this sounds kind of hypocrit towards your so called opinion doesnt it?

I wanted to see Avalance01 (the new guy) in action and hybrid is a good way to show how he thinks except of just playing prophet like he will do for the next 100 games

you CLEARLY didnt want a hybrid game, stop twisting shit around, you just claimed my point of view. Also, you keep mentioning that damn double heal from the game before.. Drahque did a double heal. Drahque fucks up. Alot. Thought you should know by now.
Its like any point im trying to prove comes with the so called "victim" defending himself by twisting shit around in hypocrit fashion, again what a jewel of a community this is. All about the game

[Krumme]

You have no idea want I wanted and didn't want - I am the kinda guy that says what I want regarding hybrid - if I don't want to play it I say I don't want to play it even if the 7 others want to play it - but this one time I didn't have any problem with hybrid and if you say "if someone have a problem with hybrid please say so" and I answer "whatever" - that is not a problem with hybrid is it? I agree I should have replied in a more concrete way but I was cool with both prophet and hybrid and since the rest of you wanted hybrid I really didn't care wether it was hybrid or prophet
Saying I CLEARLY didn't want a hybrid game is a way of perspective - if I had known you would unhost if I didn't reply in a proper way I would CLEARLY have stated that hybrid was fine with me but the way I see it hybrid can be picked if no one have a problem with it - and no one seemed to have so why not just start the game with hybrid?

Well regarding the game before we fucked up 2-3 times that game in that 3s/4s and I have close to nothing to say in a 3/s4s because rarely people listens to me and we end up making the wrong decision - so for me personally it's better with a 2s because my opinion ways much more which personally is more fun for me + from my point of view raises our chances of winning

[supersexyy]

Sad to see any player drop out of the LIHL. Hope to see you back

[BA_Fail]

I understand why you would leave, at the moment the wrong people have all the influence. The people who have actually tried to help out the community have been too quiet and aren't interested in any position of power. The mods are listening to the wrong people, and it just seems to me that these people are pushing things that shouldn't even be issues so much that the mods feel they need to do something about it.

Hopefully I'll see you around, it was nice playing with you.

[sX.Chuck]

R.I.P. Hydra. ;];];]

[ZTX)Fiji]

Tbh if the leagues current level of skill is worse, then howcome non of you are in top 10 ? im sure the reason why alot of older lihl players are whining is because that they dont wanna realise that the league has changed both in size and how the game itself is being played, and this ofcourse creates more competition for topspots. You have a duty as an experienced player to share your knowledge and improve the level of the newcomers, in order to maintain a LIHL standart enviornment. in this case ( and many others ) i can see that you have big problems with certain individuals, but unlike some other people in LIHL that has developed grudges towards others in the league due to their own lack of skill, you actually dont like their personallity.. and chose to leave the league even if the players that you hate hasnt even been accepted into the league. you did the same towards me when my vouchrequest was under discussion, and now look at who leads the league. If you took the least bit of responsibility you could actually shape some of the new players, and make them stand on their own feet, and even beating you.. Things change, dont get stuck in the past, then you will end up in a dreamworld where you are the best and everything is good. you can have fun developing the new players aswell and get new friendships (which i think is the whole point of the league).. a season is really long, so even if you drop abit in rank, you will have plenty of time to recover.

My messages in this post would in short be (Stop whining if you lose to someone better than you - personal grudges makes you look like a pathettic kid that cant get what you want - things have changed and if your not the best anymore, then work on it, and help those arround you on your back way up (you DO deppend on them too) - take responsibility)

Bula vinaka Fiji

[HateLose]

I gotta agree with TubbyzieKing. This league is going downhill, therefore I stopped playing as much since Season 2. The only reason while I still play it, is because certain people ask me to play and I play with them. Regardless if I'm with them or against them, I like to play with these players (Season 1 players). With all the rules and implementations you guys are adding to LIHL, it makes it less fun and provokes more drama. Like I've ALWAYS said....LIHL was meant for pro players and no merc switching.......NOTHING ELSE. Since more and more players join, they constantly want new rules and implementations, because they don't think it's fair. The game meta will constantly change. Either you get used to it or you fail. You don't go and report like a lil bitch and have mods create more rules and change the game play. LIHL was fun and good times for legion, but now there are too many rules/restrictions and its just too much drama from what I see on the forums.

Also I gotta agree....you guys have let just about anyone join LIHL, regardless of their skill set, because players from LIHL vouch for them. Even though LIHL players vouch for certain people, you should still look at their games or test them......just my opinion.


@ztx)fiji No offense to you (I barely know you). You talk so much about skill and being #1 in lihl. Come try to do that in LTD 1v1. That is where the skill is truly tested......by individual.

[ZTX)Fiji]

ITS fine i can See what your point is. 1v1 is an entirely different game than 2s 3s or 4s LOL. - as many of the mods say: if you want to play those types of games, then join a pubgame - the reason for the rulechanges are because games either lasts too long, or some strategies are just lame ( such as the tot delay recently ) imo building solo according to what your team needs is truely to teamwork and to know all of the Towers in the game.